With the upgrade to python, anyone relying heavily on packages is definitely have to upgrade. Not may package devs are going to want to maintain ST2 AND ST3 packages.
Sublime Text 3 Beta
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Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta
#62Are these changes really worth the "3.0" tag? Goto to symbol is great, but all other bullet points taste like what I expected 2 to have once it left beta (basically, speed and not letting plugins crash my session). Isn't this a clever way to make users buy into a paid upgrade for a stable version of an editor they already bought?
Even if it is, I am more than happy to put down another $30 for it. I get that much value from it daily.
Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta
#63My pet peeve with editors is how they handle files changing underneath them. I do this regularly enough (eg I might make a quick change using vi, source control update), there could be ssh or sshfs involved, or another tool might be better for doing whatever it is that I wanted. Emacs has been the only editor that has never lost a change for me. Whenever you try to make a modification it checks the underlying file is…
kate[0] can cope too with modified or deleted open files (see http://kate-editor.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/step4.png for an example)
Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I tried SL2 and it quite happily ignored the fact that the file had changed. Weird. I use Sublime Text 2 exclusively across all three platforms. Whenever an open file changes (e.g. I sync to Perforce), it pops up a modal dialog box when I bring that file's tab back into focus. If you're referring to a file that's changed in the background as you're actively editing it, I admit I haven't tried that.
Have an edit window open, and then go in via a terminal/vi and change/save the same file. Then see what happens.
Yes, that what's I was describing. It works just fine. When I tab back to Sublime, I get the " has changed on disk. Do you want to reload it?" modal dialog box. (If there are no unsaved changes in the Sublime buffer that could be clobbered, it just reloads the file silently as you'd expect.)
Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
In ST2 there is Vintage mode, you can use most VI shortcuts I believe. http://www.sublimetext.com/docs/2/vintage.html
The vintage mode is excellent. It's the best emulation of vim that I've used. Sadly I can't run ST2 on our work machines as the RHEL version we use has a libc (glibc?) that is too old. I'm unable to host my own libc due to a binary format change that is incompatible with the system dynamic loader.
Which ones have you tried? Vintage mode is most impressive considering it's so small (code-wise), but I don't find it particularly good at even the basics (a lot of commands have subtle behavioural differences).
It's better than IDEAVim, but certainly ViEmu and jVi are better. Maybe even Vrapper and XVim beat it too.
Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta
#66$30 for an upgrade seems a tad rich.
Ridiculously cheap really
Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta
#67I want a better project wide find. It could be better.
Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can use a vim emulation mode in sublime so all your hard work wasn't for nothing but I believe some of the more advanced vim features don't work in sublime. The advantage of sublime is that it works well out of the box and with package control it is very easy to install any package you may need. If you decide to give it a try, try sublime 2 with package control (I believe the trial is still free for sublime 2).
The other advantage is having the same text editor on Windows, OS X and Linux. No more wishing you had TextMate in Windows, or Notepad++ in OS X.
Umm.. vim works fine on all platforms.
Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta
#69I am pleased to see this app written in C++11. I hope it will inspire others to create more fast, beautiful, cross platform apps with the language.
Re: Sublime Text 3 Beta
#70Coming from someone who has never used or tried Sublime Text, how does this compare to Vim in general? It's taken quite a while to grow familiar with Vim, is it worth the learning curve to ditch it now and try Sublime? Are the two really that different? A lot of what I'm seeing looks like things that can be done in Vim, but I might be missing something.
I'm a vim/textmate user and I found sublimes UX to be lacking polish and the UI overall needed work. I like textmates uniform OSX style and VIMs uniform terminal style, using the "Tomorrow" theme on both [1]. Although I'm also a part designer so the aesthetics matter to me as much as functionality. If you're measuring functionality I can't imagine sublimes better than VIM. [1] https://github.com/chriskempson/tomorrow…
With a few basic JSON edits I was able to make Sublime look pretty sexy. Its spartan appearance matches it's utilitarian nature. I find it very comfortable and trusty. I agree that TextMate has the OS X polish that I too prefer but it's development has stagnated a bit in comparison. There is definitely a place for ST right in the middle of Vim and TextMate. Heck, if the Sublime guys could whip up a better Dock icon that'd go a long way.