VMware to cut 900 jobs

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Post by ishbits » Mon, Jan 28, 2013, 11:42 PM UTC

Re: VMware to cut 900 jobs

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Post by dobbsbob » Tue, Jan 29, 2013, 12:56 AM UTC

this is why I don't work for mega software corps

i bet all these poor bastard devs had to do 'team building exercises', file endless TPS reports, and forced to enjoy TGIF jeans day to indoctrinate you into the company cult then it's layoff time.

Re: VMware to cut 900 jobs

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Post by amitutk » Tue, Jan 29, 2013, 12:59 AM UTC

dobbsbob wrote: post #2

this is why I don't work for mega software corps i bet all these poor bastard devs had to do 'team building exercises', file endless TPS reports, and forced to enjoy TGIF jeans day to indoctrinate you into the company cult then it's layoff time.

and small companies don't fire people?

Re: VMware to cut 900 jobs

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Post by bitops » Tue, Jan 29, 2013, 1:07 AM UTC

dobbsbob wrote: post #2

this is why I don't work for mega software corps i bet all these poor bastard devs had to do 'team building exercises', file endless TPS reports, and forced to enjoy TGIF jeans day to indoctrinate you into the company cult then it's layoff time.

In defense of VMware...I work at VMware and it's been great so far. At least in my division, there is very little "big company BS" to put up with.

I've been here for a year and I've yet to file a single TPS report, attend a team building exercise, and they throw company-wide beer bashes every Friday (usually with pretty good food).

It's a good place to work, in other words. Is it the same as a startup? Not at all. But if you're going to join a big company, you shouldn't be expecting that either.

Re: VMware to cut 900 jobs

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jan 29, 2013, 1:08 AM UTC

amitutk wrote: post #3

dobbsbob wrote: post #2

this is why I don't work for mega software corps i bet all these poor bastard devs had to do 'team building exercises', file endless TPS reports, and forced to enjoy TGIF jeans day to indoctrinate you into the company cult then it's layoff time.

and small companies don't fire people?

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Re: VMware to cut 900 jobs

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Post by jussij » Tue, Jan 29, 2013, 1:09 AM UTC

amitutk wrote: post #3

dobbsbob wrote: post #2

this is why I don't work for mega software corps i bet all these poor bastard devs had to do 'team building exercises', file endless TPS reports, and forced to enjoy TGIF jeans day to indoctrinate you into the company cult then it's layoff time.

and small companies don't fire people?

Small companies pay you less, make up the shortfall in stock options, work you longer hours and then go belly up ;)

Re: VMware to cut 900 jobs

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Post by m0nastic » Tue, Jan 29, 2013, 1:10 AM UTC

dobbsbob wrote: post #2

this is why I don't work for mega software corps i bet all these poor bastard devs had to do 'team building exercises', file endless TPS reports, and forced to enjoy TGIF jeans day to indoctrinate you into the company cult then it's layoff time.

How many of these 900 jobs are developers?

Not that I feel great about anyone losing their jobs, but it's hard to get a sense of what this means for VMWare without knowing their "restructuring plan". Are they HR department consolidations from acquisitions? Sales consolidations? There's a difference.

I assume they're not replacing 900 software developers with virtualized developers who run just above the metal.

Re: VMware to cut 900 jobs

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Post by jonathanwallace » Tue, Jan 29, 2013, 1:10 AM UTC

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amitutk wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

and small companies don't fire people?

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Small companies don't have to. They're small and the culture is immediately affected by the owners/founders/executive team directly.

Re: VMware to cut 900 jobs

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Post by YZF » Tue, Jan 29, 2013, 1:11 AM UTC

amitutk wrote: post #3

dobbsbob wrote: post #2

this is why I don't work for mega software corps i bet all these poor bastard devs had to do 'team building exercises', file endless TPS reports, and forced to enjoy TGIF jeans day to indoctrinate you into the company cult then it's layoff time.

and small companies don't fire people?

In big companies good people can end up being laid off because they happen to be in the wrong team/group/project and some clueless bean counter decides that's the business that needs to be eliminated.

As far as large companies go it gets a lot worse than VMware though they seem to have lost direction somewhat.

The problem of largeness is that decision makers are so far removed from the decision they can't possibly make good decisions. It's certainly possible for small companies to make bad decisions as well.

Re: VMware to cut 900 jobs

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Post by kyrra » Tue, Jan 29, 2013, 1:20 AM UTC

I don't believe these people are being fired... at least not all of them. Take a look at a report from 2 months ago[1]. 600 people from VMWare are working on Pivotal, if those people don't count on VMWare's books anymore, that would be a reduction in headcount.

Also, the Chicago Tribune[2] article is better than the BizJournals one. One key point in this article is that by the end of 2013, they expect to hire 1000 new employees.

This all sounds like shuffling around of people and trimming a little fat, and has nothing to do with VMWare possibly doing badly.

[1] http://www.thevarguy.com/2012/12/05/vmware-confirms-pivotal-...

[2] http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/sns-rt-us-vmware-resu...