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Ubuntu Phone will include a Terminal application

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Re: Ubuntu Phone will include a Terminal application

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Post by jlgreco »

natem345 wrote: post #51
killerpopiller wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

well thats the beauty, you can just plug keyboard/mouse via usb and hdmi for screen into your phone, ehm desktop-PC - see raspberry pis, cubieboard and so on. really looking forward to it.

If you're going to use all those adapters & accessories... you may as well just use a desktop or laptop. Which probably already has all those packages you frequently use, and runs them faster.

Who likes traveling with a laptop? As much as a soft-keyboard and connectbot suck, I already commonly use them as a replacement for carrying around a laptop. The convenience of needing a pocket instead of a bag is worth it.

(Also, who cares about speed? It's not like you are going to be rendering or building on it, so even the most modest of smartphones today will be more than enough. We no longer need the latest and greatest to be productive.)

Re: Ubuntu Phone will include a Terminal application

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Post by tree_of_item »

feralchimp wrote: post #53

The market for people who want a native terminal on their phone should be roughly equivalent to people who ever want to terminal INTO their phone. The market already well served by iOS, Android, etc., is people who want to terminal OUT OF their phone and onto a real computer someplace. What are the real-world tasks you expect to do with the former that you couldn't do, or couldn't do as well, with the latter?

If I'm understanding you correctly, you wouldn't need to SSH in to your phone from another device. You could run something like SQLite locally and access it from the terminal, or write Ubuntu applications that expect services to be available on certain ports.

Re: Ubuntu Phone will include a Terminal application

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Post by dhimes »

barredo wrote: post #70
untog wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you ever needed access to an editor, language, database backend, etc. when you happen to be without a laptop? Honestly? No. I can't imagine the agony of trying to type out a SQL query on my phone. I have a Macbook Air, which is light enough for me to carry around with me the vast majority of the time- it's great. If I wanted something smaller I would perhaps get a tablet with a keyboard (or a netbook, if they we…

I use prompt app on my iPhone all the time! https://itunes.apple.com/es/app/prompt/id421507115?mt=8

The dang keyboard covers the terminal on the phone and ipad. I must be missing a setting.

Re: Ubuntu Phone will include a Terminal application

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Post by untog »

robomartin wrote: post #55

Just thinking out loud here. You know where a market for disruption exists? The millions of iOS devices that are now being relegated to the trash bin of tech. Very soon everything from iPhone 3GS and back will be obsolete. You will not be able to update apps or OS. I have a nice pile of iPod Touch units that I can't develop for and will not move past their last update (was it iOS 4.2-something?). You don't have to bu…

If I were Microsoft I'd throw money at making W8 Phone run as a viable replacement for iOS on these devices. And I'd make the software 100% free of charge.

Never, ever, ever going to happen. Apple would provide the access required to do that, so you'd need to reverse engineer the device in order to install a custom OS on it- something that Apple would likely take legal action against.

Add to that the perception that WP is a dead-end OS for crappy old devices, and you're ruined your brand too.

Re: Ubuntu Phone will include a Terminal application

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Post by sourcefrog »

achiang wrote: post #79

I just want to point out that the link is for user submitted design suggestions and is not necessarily official Canonical plan of record for what will ship. http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/01/23/community-driven-ubuntu-... It's a subtle distinction I wanted to point out. Not speaking on behalf of Canonical, just in my own capacity.

Yes, this: the "will" of the title is unjustified.

"Someone would like to have a terminal on the Ubuntu phone" would be more accurate.

There are plenty of "official" blueprints that never made it into the product.

Re: Ubuntu Phone will include a Terminal application

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Post by wvenable »

mylittlepony wrote: post #76
zeffr wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hacker Keyboard. It will let you send keystrokes via the keyboard instead of needing connectbot. unless you meant an actual bluetooth keyboard, then its just a matter of foldable vs fixed and what you like more. My dad uses this: http://www.quill.com/android-keyboards/cbs/283296.html?cm_mm... for his nexus 7. Works out pretty well.

If you can carry that, you can carry a light notebook =/

I have one of those keyboards and it's huge -- bigger than my Nexus 7. I've played around with a bluetooth mouse and that keyboard on my Nexus 7 but it still doesn't seem that great for doing real work.

Re: Ubuntu Phone will include a Terminal application

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Post by andor »

I think it's sad that the core apps include Facebook and Twitter, but not a real instant messaging client (as in "I can install my own server if necessary", "end to end encryption", etc.) Instead of more client implementations for the same commercial services, the free software world should work on bringing the state of the art to free (as in freedom) tools.

No, this is not Richard Stallman speaking. I just want to keep my data on my own server, or at least have the choice to host it at a company in my own country.

Re: Ubuntu Phone will include a Terminal application

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Post by bxbb »

denzil_correa wrote: post #75
cs702 wrote: post #12

As soon as Ubuntu Phone becomes stable enough for daily use, I will switch from Android to it. Coupled with a powerful processor and plenty of spare solid-state memory, Ubuntu Phone will allow me to walk around and travel with my entire desktop environment in my pocket -- including round-the-clock access to everything available in official and third-party Ubuntu repositories. (Have you ever needed access to an editor…

> Have you ever needed access to an editor, language, database backend, etc. when you happen to be without a laptop? No problem, Ubuntu Phone will allow you to install and run all these things on your phone. I used to perform most of these tasks on Nokia phone (yes, right!) - N900. Too bad, it didn't pick up on the market. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N900

> N900. Too bad, it didn't pick up on the market.

Wrong pick on the OS name, I guess :P.

Re: Ubuntu Phone will include a Terminal application

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Post by icebraining »

andor wrote: post #87

I think it's sad that the core apps include Facebook and Twitter, but not a real instant messaging client (as in "I can install my own server if necessary", "end to end encryption", etc.) Instead of more client implementations for the same commercial services, the free software world should work on bringing the state of the art to free (as in freedom) tools. No, this is not Richard Stallman speaking. I just want to k…

Facebook Chat is just their private server of an open protocol (XMPP). Unless the client specifically prevents you from doing so, you should be able to use your own server just like you can with e.g. Pidgin.
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