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Why Did the Justice System Target Aaron Swartz?

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Re: Why Did the Justice System Target Aaron Swartz?

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I don't agree with the articles contention that a 'DDOs is the internet equivalent of a sit-down strike'.

Its not 1:1, but while its people coordinating its pretty easy to draw the comparison, only when its done by a botnet wrangler or extortionists do things start to diverge.

You just don't see the equivalence because operating on the internet you only see your susceptibility to a ddos, and it's always different when it can happen to you.

It's a nuisance you deal with until the protesting party gets board. In one case you call the cops, in the other case you pay someone with a fat pipe to absorb the hit and forward the legit traffic to you.

Re: Why Did the Justice System Target Aaron Swartz?

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I don't agree with the articles contention that a 'DDOs is the internet equivalent of a sit-down strike'.

Its not 1:1, but while its people coordinating its pretty easy to draw the comparison, only when its done by a botnet wrangler or extortionists do things start to diverge. You just don't see the equivalence because operating on the internet you only see your susceptibility to a ddos, and it's always different when it can happen to you. It's a nuisance you deal with until the protesting party gets board. In one case y…

I am unaware of any successful DDOS (other than accidental ones) which food not make some use of unsuspecting people's computers, either by ping reflection, botnets or secret iframes. All of these sound less like a sit-in and more like an attack which should be prosecuted to me.

I am happy to hear of counterexample.

Re: Why Did the Justice System Target Aaron Swartz?

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The why of it is really, really obvious. The system attacks those who threaten the system. Successful activists are top of the list. (What makes A.S. stand out is that he was white and middle class. He doesn't fit the pattern-match for an expected target.)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its not 1:1, but while its people coordinating its pretty easy to draw the comparison, only when its done by a botnet wrangler or extortionists do things start to diverge. You just don't see the equivalence because operating on the internet you only see your susceptibility to a ddos, and it's always different when it can happen to you. It's a nuisance you deal with until the protesting party gets board. In one case y…

I am unaware of any successful DDOS (other than accidental ones) which food not make some use of unsuspecting people's computers, either by ping reflection, botnets or secret iframes. All of these sound less like a sit-in and more like an attack which should be prosecuted to me. I am happy to hear of counterexample.

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Re: Why Did the Justice System Target Aaron Swartz?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its not 1:1, but while its people coordinating its pretty easy to draw the comparison, only when its done by a botnet wrangler or extortionists do things start to diverge. You just don't see the equivalence because operating on the internet you only see your susceptibility to a ddos, and it's always different when it can happen to you. It's a nuisance you deal with until the protesting party gets board. In one case y…

I am unaware of any successful DDOS (other than accidental ones) which food not make some use of unsuspecting people's computers, either by ping reflection, botnets or secret iframes. All of these sound less like a sit-in and more like an attack which should be prosecuted to me. I am happy to hear of counterexample.

How many successful DDOS attacks do you know about and how can you find out if the participating nodes are part of a botnet or use iframes?

Re: Why Did the Justice System Target Aaron Swartz?

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The why of it is really, really obvious. The system attacks those who threaten the system. Successful activists are top of the list. (What makes A.S. stand out is that he was white and middle class. He doesn't fit the pattern-match for an expected target.)

Put your tin hat away. The why of it is really, really obvious. Low hanging fruit, an easy target for prosecutors wanting to score an easy win.

Re: Why Did the Justice System Target Aaron Swartz?

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The why of it is really, really obvious. The system attacks those who threaten the system. Successful activists are top of the list. (What makes A.S. stand out is that he was white and middle class. He doesn't fit the pattern-match for an expected target.)

Put your tin hat away. The why of it is really, really obvious. Low hanging fruit, an easy target for prosecutors wanting to score an easy win.

Why are the low hanging fruit / easy win points "tin hat"?

The wrong part was the nonsense race point.

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