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Re: United States Sentencing Commission website hacked

#141

[Shakes his head in disgust.] Hackers, it's time for me to hack the discussion. You and your first world problems have NO IDEA how to fight for freedom. This is the wimpy way to protest whatever it is you are protesting. Unlike most people who post here, I have actually lived under a dictatorial regime that ruled a territory that later had a peaceful transition to democracy and legally protected civil rights. Anonymo…

A number of people associated with anonymous have already gone to jail, but I guess that doesn't fit very well with your "no true scotsman" argument.

Re: United States Sentencing Commission website hacked

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> The biggest problem with website-defacing movements is their cowardice (no one in Anonymous seems courageous enough to go to prison) and lack of perspective (they complain about first world problems that they mischaracterize as important problems for the common people). I think you're missing the point, here. I like what's going on in the majority of your post -- there is a lot we can learn from other successful re…

In principle I agree with what you say. In practice however I am skeptical. In my calm and rational mind, I could not possible see how defacing of a government website could affect anyone or bring more supporters to Anonymous. On that same state of mind, i would also not see how commercials could ever work, or how scandals/negative news could sometimes increase support for a political party. Thus, my mind tells me (b…

We aren't very rational, when it comes down to it, because rational people have trouble making decisions. Political issues are hard to visualize or experiment with - they seem to be distant from daily life - so most people, in a "natural" state, will lack strong opinions on any given issue.

Thus, "coaching" comes into play - people rely on things they've been told to guide them, whether or not it was correct information. Most of these political tactics act as a way to both inform people and influence them. This can be "good" when the tactic is something that adds a healthy structure and process to governance - for example, the concepts of civil liberties had to be both invented and then propagandized in order for people to comprehend their value and demand their existence. People living in tyranny weren't necessarily _happy_, but they didn't know of a better option, and couldn't hope to convince others around them.

Of course, it's a "bad" practice in that when speaking of single issues, the same influencing tactics tend to form an unbalanced opinion, by removing some concerns and inflating others into bogeymen. But it's by far the cheapest way to build support for an issue, so it remains the way things are done.

In any case, concrete action is usually the very last step, and almost an afterthought, in the long cycle of debate typical to political processes.

Re: United States Sentencing Commission website hacked

#143
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> [Shakes his head in disgust.] [Shurgs]. > You and your first world problems have NO IDEA how to fight for freedom. Flaunting your experience living in a totalitarian regime to scold those first world kids might not be as convincing, than, say, if you just skipped that part. Someone else can always trump that "well, my family members were tortured" so "don't tell me about your experience". > If you really want to le…

You watched that video and found it be credible? You are the fodder for their tomfoolery. Now I have nothing against pranks, but there is a legitimate cause here. Scientific papers from public funding should be freely available. Superhero gibberish, while entertaining, will not help.

I didn't find it credible but I believe it inspiring (for many).

> Superhero gibberish, while entertaining, will not help.

Superman, Batman, etc... No country loves them some super hero stuff better than Americans. I don't think anyone including the authors this this video to be a documentary, it is a piece of propaganda, a call to action. Do they expect the govt. to realistically accept their conditions and conduct an overnight reform of DOJ? I am guessing not.

Re: United States Sentencing Commission website hacked

#144
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Dudes. This is not at all helpful. Website defacements just create more of an excuse for a crackdown. If you're going to risk your life and freedom hacking things; make it worth your goddam time. Hack the prison industrial complex and get the evidence that shows that crimes are being created so that prisoners can be kept at a profit. Expose the email trails of corrupt judges who put away kids for kickbacks. Dox the m…

Exposing emails, hacking the FBI? This is not at all helpful. Murdering politicians, assassinating police officers and judges, freeing the wrongly imprisoned by force. A willingness to die fighting. Any or all of those would change things, possibly for the better. But this, this is a waste of your time and ours.

> Murdering politicians, assassinating police officers and judges...

Regimes that start by abandoning the rule of law tend to have problems adopting it back later on. It's so much more convenient not to worry about following rules.

Re: United States Sentencing Commission website hacked

#145
post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You watched that video and found it be credible? You are the fodder for their tomfoolery. Now I have nothing against pranks, but there is a legitimate cause here. Scientific papers from public funding should be freely available. Superhero gibberish, while entertaining, will not help.

I didn't find it credible but I believe it inspiring (for many). > Superhero gibberish, while entertaining, will not help. Superman, Batman, etc... No country loves them some super hero stuff better than Americans. I don't think anyone including the authors this this video to be a documentary, it is a piece of propaganda, a call to action. Do they expect the govt. to realistically accept their conditions and conduct…

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Re: United States Sentencing Commission website hacked

#146
post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You watched that video and found it be credible? You are the fodder for their tomfoolery. Now I have nothing against pranks, but there is a legitimate cause here. Scientific papers from public funding should be freely available. Superhero gibberish, while entertaining, will not help.

I didn't find it credible but I believe it inspiring (for many). > Superhero gibberish, while entertaining, will not help. Superman, Batman, etc... No country loves them some super hero stuff better than Americans. I don't think anyone including the authors this this video to be a documentary, it is a piece of propaganda, a call to action. Do they expect the govt. to realistically accept their conditions and conduct…

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Re: United States Sentencing Commission website hacked

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post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In principle I agree with what you say. In practice however I am skeptical. In my calm and rational mind, I could not possible see how defacing of a government website could affect anyone or bring more supporters to Anonymous. On that same state of mind, i would also not see how commercials could ever work, or how scandals/negative news could sometimes increase support for a political party. Thus, my mind tells me (b…

We aren't very rational, when it comes down to it, because rational people have trouble making decisions. Political issues are hard to visualize or experiment with - they seem to be distant from daily life - so most people, in a "natural" state, will lack strong opinions on any given issue. Thus, "coaching" comes into play - people rely on things they've been told to guide them, whether or not it was correct informat…

>We aren't very rational, when it comes down to it, because rational people have trouble making decisions.

Do you have a source or something for this? (I want to know more.)

Re: United States Sentencing Commission website hacked

#148
post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You watched that video and found it be credible? You are the fodder for their tomfoolery. Now I have nothing against pranks, but there is a legitimate cause here. Scientific papers from public funding should be freely available. Superhero gibberish, while entertaining, will not help.

I didn't find it credible but I believe it inspiring (for many). > Superhero gibberish, while entertaining, will not help. Superman, Batman, etc... No country loves them some super hero stuff better than Americans. I don't think anyone including the authors this this video to be a documentary, it is a piece of propaganda, a call to action. Do they expect the govt. to realistically accept their conditions and conduct…

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Re: United States Sentencing Commission website hacked

#149
post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You watched that video and found it be credible? You are the fodder for their tomfoolery. Now I have nothing against pranks, but there is a legitimate cause here. Scientific papers from public funding should be freely available. Superhero gibberish, while entertaining, will not help.

I didn't find it credible but I believe it inspiring (for many). > Superhero gibberish, while entertaining, will not help. Superman, Batman, etc... No country loves them some super hero stuff better than Americans. I don't think anyone including the authors this this video to be a documentary, it is a piece of propaganda, a call to action. Do they expect the govt. to realistically accept their conditions and conduct…

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Re: United States Sentencing Commission website hacked

#150
post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You watched that video and found it be credible? You are the fodder for their tomfoolery. Now I have nothing against pranks, but there is a legitimate cause here. Scientific papers from public funding should be freely available. Superhero gibberish, while entertaining, will not help.

I didn't find it credible but I believe it inspiring (for many). > Superhero gibberish, while entertaining, will not help. Superman, Batman, etc... No country loves them some super hero stuff better than Americans. I don't think anyone including the authors this this video to be a documentary, it is a piece of propaganda, a call to action. Do they expect the govt. to realistically accept their conditions and conduct…

>it is a piece of propaganda

That is not not a valid excuse in free countries. Where are you from?

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