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Re: A List Apart 5.0

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Post by camus »

pacomerh wrote: post #71

It's actually funny how the communities of developers get divided into groups. There's the know-everythings who are inclined to the technical side and have a smart answer for anything and everything, all decisions are based on manuals and numbers. Also, creative ones who have some sort of background in something else other than development, like music or illustration, etc. They usually make things touching a bit on t…

except these guys claim they have something to teach you, i'm sorry but based on their sloppy design i conclude they do not.

Re: A List Apart 5.0

#82

Post by camus »

verisimilitude wrote: post #66

Let it be known that some have cut off the top of their text before ALA 5.0 (myself included: http://tumbledry.org ). I like this design because it's opinionated, and I think we should wait to completely judge until they are done and have polished it.

Your title is still readable , theirs is not.

Re: A List Apart 5.0

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Post by pacomerh »

camus wrote: post #81
pacomerh wrote: post #71

It's actually funny how the communities of developers get divided into groups. There's the know-everythings who are inclined to the technical side and have a smart answer for anything and everything, all decisions are based on manuals and numbers. Also, creative ones who have some sort of background in something else other than development, like music or illustration, etc. They usually make things touching a bit on t…

except these guys claim they have something to teach you, i'm sorry but based on their sloppy design i conclude they do not.

Can you recommend a good person/group/source for great design?. I think these guys Zeldman, Santamaria, etc, rather than innovators are good decision makers in terms of where to place things on a page. Because it seems to be working for everybody, and they proved it.

Re: A List Apart 5.0

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Post by camus »

pacomerh wrote: post #83
camus wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

except these guys claim they have something to teach you, i'm sorry but based on their sloppy design i conclude they do not.

Can you recommend a good person/group/source for great design?. I think these guys Zeldman, Santamaria, etc, rather than innovators are good decision makers in terms of where to place things on a page. Because it seems to be working for everybody, and they proved it.

dont care about these guys , they did not invent webdesign and i dont claim i can teach people stuff while producing design that sucks.

Re: A List Apart 5.0

#85

Post by pacomerh »

camus wrote: post #84
pacomerh wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you recommend a good person/group/source for great design?. I think these guys Zeldman, Santamaria, etc, rather than innovators are good decision makers in terms of where to place things on a page. Because it seems to be working for everybody, and they proved it.

dont care about these guys , they did not invent webdesign and i dont claim i can teach people stuff while producing design that sucks.

That's just plain trolling

Re: A List Apart 5.0

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Post by _Simon »

camus wrote: post #79
_Simon wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I call design is simply not as black and white as you'd like it to be and cynicism is lazy. To deny that this aesthetic is controversial is to have not read any of this thread. The very fact that you are suggesting a lack of purpose in the design of the masthead and using a strawman to back it up suggests a modicum of controversy.

Whatever man , i call these so called "designers" bullshit, because they think they can teach people anything about design when their own design makes no sense at all, and frankly sucks. If i had a blog like this and if potential clients would see that , they sure arent going to hire me, as all the blog design feels ridicule and sloppy.

Their solution is perfectly content, you just don't like the aesthetic. Nothing wrong with that at all and neither is expressing that opinion. Calling the people behind the restyle of ALA 'so called "designers"' is disrespectful though and no amount of fallacy is going to change that.

Re: A List Apart 5.0

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Post by mnicole »

larrydavid wrote: post #70
mnicole wrote: post #26

I'm kind of at a loss for words. It used to be unique and friendly, and now it is just another Medium, 37signals, altered Bootstrap-looking thing with no personality. Not including dates in the highlighted articles on the homepage (and only highlighting two to begin with?), along with putting it at the bottom of the "More From" is a huge miss (as the date of these types of articles is important to the context and to…

Medium, 37 Signals and ALA look nothing like Bootstrap at all, so I'm not sure why you made that comparison. I am not a fan of this new redesign at all and feel like Medium and 37 signals do the simple/clean layout approach much better than A List Apart. But as with all three designs, the primary focus is on the content, which I guess is why some people seem to think they lack 'personality'.

Content = typography = the potential for a lot of personality if done appropriately.
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