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Meet Watsi, Y Combinator's First Nonprofit

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Re: Meet Watsi, Y Combinator's First Nonprofit

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I used Watsi when it was first announced here. It's a truly amazing offering, a great product with great customer support and outreach, and, as a user, it truly makes you feel like you're doing something good for the world. A few weeks after donating, I later got an email from them letting me know that the boy whose heart transplant I had funded had died. It kind of wrecked my whole day, but I was still glad I got th…

Our team was heartbroken to hear the outcome of that treatment as well. (You've now got three of our team sitting around discussing your incredibly poignant comment.)

It's certainly a bit of a dilemma, but we've made a promise to be 100% transparent, even when it hurts.

FWIW we've found ourselves even more dedicated to Watsi since receiving our first negative outcome. We always knew that what we were doing was real and important, but there's something about death that really puts the gravity of the problem we're attempting to solve into perspective.

Re: Meet Watsi, Y Combinator's First Nonprofit

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I'm so glad this was funded, I remember when it was initially posted, and the simple, brave solution, and I salute to YC for funding and mentoring this.

One small thing, although I just donated 50$ for two people, I found myself to be a bit uncomfortable with my actions,

I didn't really pay attention much to who I'm donating to, just clicked on the first picture that caught my eye without thinking, and donated 25$. Then I noticed, I'm donating to a 1 year old baby, with a cute photo. I really want to think of myself as someone who pays more attention, reads and makes a decision based on facts, medical condition, urgency, and likelihood to succeed, but no, I just clicked based on prejudice, 1 second first impression, biased decision, without noticing I did so.

Then I saw a 37 years old woman and noticed she got much less donations although her total needed amount is higher, perhaps her medical situation is less severe, but I would be naive to think that that's the only reason. So I asked myself, am I doing some sort of unconscious decision that is not really fair and unbiased? I would lie if I say I didn't.

So I donated 25$ to her as well, just so I feel a little better with myself, and then I thought, well, this is a feature request.

So to avoid the "cute baby gets more donations" bias, what would make it a little nicer to me is to donate without knowing who it goes to, I'd like a button that says - "donate to most medically severe case", or "donate to most time sensitive case" and have someone else make the decision. This will make me feel a little more in peace with myself, and actually might make such biases less common. Right now it might not have affect, but as it will hopefully grow to help more people, having such "donate to who needs it most medically" option will help prevent such gaps.

Also moving to a better payment system, Stripe or even Google checkout will make it a much nicer experience.

EDIT: the baby's profile was on the home page, where as the woman's profile was one click deeper, so this could be another reason, but this brings another enhancement, please automatically promote / rotate profiles that have less donations / most urgent medical conditions to the front page

Another feature I'm missing is to allow subscription, I would think many would be happy to donate 5$-20$ a month and automatically give it to those who have the least donations, or must urgent medical condition. Getting traffic is hard and critical for making this work, and not every day you get to HN front page, I would take advantage of it and offer a recurring donation as soon as possible.

Re: Meet Watsi, Y Combinator's First Nonprofit

#124
post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN is bad at subtext, so let me offer you a decoder ring on the subtext of the 'pg story we're commenting on: YC is working on addressing the problem of funding Watsi's overhead. The point of the service is that end-users don't fund Watsi, they fund patients. In the same sense as you need to take it sort of on faith that Airbnb can bootstrap and maintain a two-sided market for short-term lodging, you should probably…

Who cares about the Watsi founders? Go help the girl! I think the point is not that people particularly care about the Watsi founders; but rather, that they care about the hundreds of thousands of other girls whom Watsi won't be able to help if Watsi and/or its founders go bankrupt because they lack a sustainable funding model.

I don't understand the logic there; at least in terms of stopping someone from getting involved: the girls you can help now should be just as, if not more important than the future.

Note, that comes across as snarky via text, but it's not meant to be. I'm just explaining my way of thinking about it. :)

Re: Meet Watsi, Y Combinator's First Nonprofit

#125
post #47

I'm personally not a fan of the concept of donating to help a specific person, rather than a cause, but am unsure whether I'm a rare exception or whether many people have the same view as me - hopefully a few replies could help answer this? When I say not a fan of the concept, I absolutely don't mean I disapprove. I don't have any problem with organisations raising money this way, nor with people choosing to donate m…

Great point. It's all about personal opinion. There are currently tons of organizations that enable people to fund a cause, but nearly none that let you fund something as specific as an individual treatment. We're providing a new, more direct and transparent, alternative. Oftentimes there is institutional support for specific "mainstream" conditions (e.g. HIV, TB, etc.) and as a result, some patients who are in uniqu…

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Re: Meet Watsi, Y Combinator's First Nonprofit

#126
post #113
post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody is saying you shouldn't give to local people in need. There are clearly many deserving outlets for charity.

Someone is saying giving to local people is nationalist and bigotry, I am merely refuting that.

There are some ways that I preferentially give to local people because it's easier. I've helped more street beggars in my neighborhood than in Port au Prince because I don't walk down the streets of Port au Prince.

But when it comes to paying for perfect strangers to receive medical treatment, and I'm choosing between someone in the US, whose medical treatment costs more, and who will receive the medical treatment anyway at the risk of personal bankruptcy, vs. someone who wouldn't receive the treatment at all in Port au Prince, you can't make an argument that I should give to the American. The American will get the treatment with or without my help. He might just end up bankrupt, but being bankrupt in America is not that bad. In fact, there's a good chance there will be no bankruptcy and the American will just have to go on a payment plan for the next few years. The Haitian won't receive the treatment at all. In fact, even after the treatment, the Haitian will still have to live in Haiti, which is probably a materially poorer existence than being bankrupt or having to make a payment plan in America.

Providing less help to someone who is in lesser need of it at greater expense, just because you share a nationality with them, is bigotry, and you've said nothing to refute that.

Re: Meet Watsi, Y Combinator's First Nonprofit

#127
post #30

Very happy to see this. At the very least, it's great news for the nonprofit world, which needs desperately to learn some of the basic the lessons of the startup world: fail fast, iterate, focus on your users, and more.

Would be interesting to observe how the established nonprofits react to this. Many of them do the following: Make their target audience (who they claim to care for) more dependent (i.e., don't solve the problem, just give some temporal ease) and take money from third parties (state, private donors) that don't control them. My guess is that they would come up with many arguments against this startup-ish approach and w…

As a member of the non-profit community (I help run GlobalGiving.org, one of the first non-profit crowdfunding platforms), we're actually doing the exact opposite. My first response to reading this? Sending Watsi an email letting them know that I've got 10 years of hard data on what works and what doesn't for motivating donors to give to specific projects and a standing invitation for me to share this knowledge with them.

At least within the tech non-profit world (GlobalGiving, Kiva, DonorsChoose.org, charity:water, etc) we're all very friendly and supportive of each other. We're so strapped for resources that it only makes sense for us to help each other out.

After all, we're all in this to make the world a better place and know that we can't do it alone.

So good luck Watsi and you've got my email. :)

Re: Meet Watsi, Y Combinator's First Nonprofit

#129

I'm so glad this was funded, I remember when it was initially posted, and the simple, brave solution, and I salute to YC for funding and mentoring this. One small thing, although I just donated 50$ for two people, I found myself to be a bit uncomfortable with my actions, I didn't really pay attention much to who I'm donating to, just clicked on the first picture that caught my eye without thinking, and donated 25$. T…

It sounds to me like that what you want to work with is the more traditional charity model. You don't know who your funding will support generally, you can subscribe, they have staff that steer the funding toward the most urgent needs.

So have a look at the Medical Partners that Watsi uses. See about donating there.

Re: Meet Watsi, Y Combinator's First Nonprofit

#130

Congrats on a great site, and the exciting news around joining YC! One quick question: > If a surgery isn't funding in time to save a patient's life, would you fund the remaining amount of the loan out of your own funds?

Yep. Take a look at their transparency document [1]. It links to all their patients so far, and also provides information about treatments postponed, status updates, etc.

In one of the updates, the patient passed away before treatment [2]. Funding was refunded.

[1] Transparency Document: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ah3wJ9CRQzyHdDZ...

[2] Update info: http://us4.campaign-archive2.com/?u=4ee1aaad2e315a0de585af61...

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