Interesting to read his note after this infamous story: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/06/masters-their-do...
wow, I wonder what the backstory is to that incident.
A note from Keith
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#52Interesting to read his note after this infamous story: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/06/masters-their-do...
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#53Am I the only one that was confused about that last line of "already working on something new and hope to announce that in February"... He's gone through something as traumatic as a lawsuit, a resignation, potential for trial, potential embarrassment of family, friends, colleagues all in the last two weeks... And his sign-off is that he has, in the midst of it all, already begun to work on a new startup?
He could have been working on a side project for awhile, and is now able to work full-time on it.
When life gives you devestating sexual harassment shakedown lawsuits which require you to suddenly resign from a prominent position at a prominent industry company, make the best of it and use that traffic to tease the audience on the big things to come!
Yeah - that was a really weird thing to end it with.
Almost as if this post was written under the intense emotional stress that such things can cause - and make you do and say weird things.
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#54offtopic, and i'm not a native english speaker, but he refers to his partner as "he and his". does this mean that it's a gay relationship?
Yes, there are many more gays and vegetarian in anglo-saxon countries.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, you're right. The suit apparently alleges that the relationship itself was not consensual. However, that almost necessarily means that acts within that relationship, if they were seen as "necessary to keep the relationship going", would be non-consensual. I don't mean rape (or else I think Keith's response would have a different approach). How Keith describes it, it could be anything relationship-related, just a…
Again, in any sexual facet not pertaining to rape, I find this news saddening. If I were to enter into a relationship with you, and I said that the only way I would continue the relationship is if you kept it under wraps, then is that really qualification as sexual harassment? The fact that we provide legal representation for people who have the choice to discontinue a relationship is beyond me.
It could very well be the opposite, the case is probably alleging that in order to get / keep the job the accuser had to continue a sexual relationship.
Re: A note from Keith
#56Interesting to read his note after this infamous story: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/06/masters-their-do...
Here's the original report:
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, you're right. The suit apparently alleges that the relationship itself was not consensual. However, that almost necessarily means that acts within that relationship, if they were seen as "necessary to keep the relationship going", would be non-consensual. I don't mean rape (or else I think Keith's response would have a different approach). How Keith describes it, it could be anything relationship-related, just a…
Again, in any sexual facet not pertaining to rape, I find this news saddening. If I were to enter into a relationship with you, and I said that the only way I would continue the relationship is if you kept it under wraps, then is that really qualification as sexual harassment? The fact that we provide legal representation for people who have the choice to discontinue a relationship is beyond me.
Actually, I think in many corporate environments, it's OK for pre-existing relationships to continue if both partners end up having jobs at the company...provided they let HR know in advance. I think that this pertains also to relationships that occur during the employment time...because sometimes love just happens.
But Keith, according to his note, did not let Square know. And as much as you want to say "what, can't someone's love life be their own business?"...well, not when such an engagement presents legal liabilities and possible conflicts of interests. Even if Keith did nothing wrong toward the accuser, the company can understandably be upset that he did not notify them of the relationship...because stuff like this happens...
Re: A note from Keith
#58Several months after our relationship began, I recommended that he interview at Square.
I don't know Keith, anyone at his company, this story or have any opinion on who did or didn't do what to whom.
I will just say this: The quote above, regardless of who says it when, is perhaps the worst business decision a person could ever make. Full Stop.
Please, don't do this. Especially if you are the boss.
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#59I think the general accepted idea that the victim of said offenses should remain anonymous while the accused is outed is very sad and makes little sense. It makes the whole "innocent until proven guilty" idea a joke given the ample data that show permanent damage that mere accusation can cause even if you are proven innocent later.
Re: A note from Keith
#60Interesting to read his note after this infamous story: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2007/06/masters-their-do...
WTF?!
I knew Thiel was gay - and until today had no idea Rabois was as well. The story you linked to is the first time I've seen this and to see that they were some ultra conservative bible toting rebels is... Bizarre.
Are they Tech's equivalent of the anti-gay senators caught in rest-stop bathrooms?
How weird this got quickly