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Re: A note from Keith

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Post by johndevor »

danilocampos wrote: post #16

What an impossible position. On the one hand – work has become such a big part of our lives. If we make it impossible for romance and work to co-exist, that reduces a lot of surface area for finding long-term romantic partners. On the other – at a certain level of authority and prominence, you just shouldn't have sex with someone you're working with. There's too much that can go wrong. This is the nightmare scenario…

All very true, but this needs to be handled in-house. I think that's the big issue here. Square should have the right to enforce its own policies, not be subjected to legal harassment.

Re: A note from Keith

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Post by 67726e »

abraininavat wrote: post #9

To those of you who immediately believe the tumblr and therefore condemn the accuser as a liar: On what basis do you make your judgment? Do you: 1. Know Keith or the accuser personally, and therefore have the capacity to make an educated guess as to the veracity of the claims? 2. Believe that rich people, well known people, or people with blogs don't have the capacity to do what Keith is accused of doing? 3. Believe…

Innocent until proven guilty.

Re: A note from Keith

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Post by MaxGabriel »

jjb123 wrote: post #21

Am I the only one that was confused about that last line of "already working on something new and hope to announce that in February"... He's gone through something as traumatic as a lawsuit, a resignation, potential for trial, potential embarrassment of family, friends, colleagues all in the last two weeks... And his sign-off is that he has, in the midst of it all, already begun to work on a new startup?

He could have been working on a side project for awhile, and is now able to work full-time on it.

Re: A note from Keith

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Post by danilocampos »

johndevor wrote: post #31
danilocampos wrote: post #16

What an impossible position. On the one hand – work has become such a big part of our lives. If we make it impossible for romance and work to co-exist, that reduces a lot of surface area for finding long-term romantic partners. On the other – at a certain level of authority and prominence, you just shouldn't have sex with someone you're working with. There's too much that can go wrong. This is the nightmare scenario…

All very true, but this needs to be handled in-house. I think that's the big issue here. Square should have the right to enforce its own policies, not be subjected to legal harassment.

There's so much implicit wrongness in your statement my mind doesn't know where to lock on to respond. Sorry.

edit: I figured it out.

You seem to desire a world where Square is exalted to some sort of sovereign status, answerable to no law beyond their own policies and procedures. Which is a horrifying state of affairs.

If something happened here that is against the law, I am heartened that a legal framework exists to provide remedies. If it did not, I am similarly heartened to note that the accused at least has resources sufficient to mount a defense. We can argue the injustice of a false accusation, if indeed it turns out the accusation was so, but the accused admits maintaining a physical relationship was in poor judgment. This is one of the realities that comes from that level of success. It's a cost of doing business that you must be much, much more cautious in the deployment of your genitals.

Re: A note from Keith

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Post by r00fus »

felideon wrote: post #28
jjb123 wrote: post #21

Am I the only one that was confused about that last line of "already working on something new and hope to announce that in February"... He's gone through something as traumatic as a lawsuit, a resignation, potential for trial, potential embarrassment of family, friends, colleagues all in the last two weeks... And his sign-off is that he has, in the midst of it all, already begun to work on a new startup?

Maybe that's his therapy for coping. Would you rather him tear his clothes and put sackcloth on his waist?

No, but a quiet, brief, wander in the woods is generally what people expect - or a strong victory against the lawsuit.

Re: A note from Keith

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Post by jjb123 »

felideon wrote: post #28
jjb123 wrote: post #21

Am I the only one that was confused about that last line of "already working on something new and hope to announce that in February"... He's gone through something as traumatic as a lawsuit, a resignation, potential for trial, potential embarrassment of family, friends, colleagues all in the last two weeks... And his sign-off is that he has, in the midst of it all, already begun to work on a new startup?

Maybe that's his therapy for coping. Would you rather him tear his clothes and put sackcloth on his waist?

I can totally understand if it's his therapy, it would likely be mine... That doesn't answer the confusion in a teaser of a big work/unrelated announcement being in there though.

Re: A note from Keith

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Post by swalberg »

67726e wrote: post #32
abraininavat wrote: post #9

To those of you who immediately believe the tumblr and therefore condemn the accuser as a liar: On what basis do you make your judgment? Do you: 1. Know Keith or the accuser personally, and therefore have the capacity to make an educated guess as to the veracity of the claims? 2. Believe that rich people, well known people, or people with blogs don't have the capacity to do what Keith is accused of doing? 3. Believe…

Innocent until proven guilty.

That's from criminal law, this seems to be a civil act. Also, while we're there, the burden of proof is different -- proof beyond a reasonable doubt vs balance of probabilities.

(IANAL, I just remember this from an engineering law class)

Re: A note from Keith

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Post by malachismith »

abraininavat wrote: post #9

To those of you who immediately believe the tumblr and therefore condemn the accuser as a liar: On what basis do you make your judgment? Do you: 1. Know Keith or the accuser personally, and therefore have the capacity to make an educated guess as to the veracity of the claims? 2. Believe that rich people, well known people, or people with blogs don't have the capacity to do what Keith is accused of doing? 3. Believe…

Yes, No, No.

It's a shakedown - and successful entrepreneurs need to start getting smarter about this shit. We've actually got something to lose now.

Re: A note from Keith

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Post by jmcqk6 »

jjb123 wrote: post #37
felideon wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe that's his therapy for coping. Would you rather him tear his clothes and put sackcloth on his waist?

I can totally understand if it's his therapy, it would likely be mine... That doesn't answer the confusion in a teaser of a big work/unrelated announcement being in there though.

If it's something you're using to keep your mind off of other things, it seems completely natural to mention it. I really don't see a problem here.
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