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Re: A List Apart 5.0

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post #4

I am using Chrome on Windows 7. The menu bar on the top of the page cuts off the title and the bottom of the page slightly cuts off the * FOR PEOPLE WHO MAKE WEBSITES. Is that the way it should look?

http://imageshack.us/a/img228/8256/alat.png I see the same thing. I have a hard time believing it is intentional, but even so, I think it looks sloppy.

I get the same on Firefox (aka Iceweasel) 10.0.12 on Debian Wheezy. I thought there was a rendering issue until I read the parent comment.

Re: A List Apart 5.0

#32
post #22

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http://imageshack.us/a/img228/8256/alat.png I see the same thing. I have a hard time believing it is intentional, but even so, I think it looks sloppy.

I don't think it looks sloppy. It's intentionally styled like a magazine. Magazines deliberately break typographic conventions.

Fair enough. I guess I'm just not a fan of websites that want to look like printed material, which is by most accounts an inferior medium.

Re: A List Apart 5.0

#33
post #22

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http://imageshack.us/a/img228/8256/alat.png I see the same thing. I have a hard time believing it is intentional, but even so, I think it looks sloppy.

I don't think it looks sloppy. It's intentionally styled like a magazine. Magazines deliberately break typographic conventions.

I see your point, but my Web browser is also an interface, and the way the top cuts the header off makes it look as if there is a rendering problem.

It feels to me a bit like a glossy magazine printed on good quality stock having a cover with a crease in it by design. Most would just assume they got a creased copy until the saw the others.

Re: A List Apart 5.0

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post #8
post #7

I don't think I've ever said this about a website, but the font size is way too large. There is also too much text on each line. I feel like this was approached from a layout perspective rather than a typographic one. For a site like ALA, I find the design to be really, really disappointing.

I wonder if the font size issue is because of display resolution. It looks perfect on my screen, but I usually have to zoom into pages to make them readable.

I imagine it'd look fine on a MacBook Air. It doesn't on a 23" monitor, that's for sure.

I want to believe that the people behind it didn't bother to test it on different viewports, but I have created websites that look fine on everything from iPhones to large monitors without writing viewport-specific CSS.

It just seems incredibly sloppy, which is hard to believe for a company like ALA.

Re: A List Apart 5.0

#35
post #8
post #7

I don't think I've ever said this about a website, but the font size is way too large. There is also too much text on each line. I feel like this was approached from a layout perspective rather than a typographic one. For a site like ALA, I find the design to be really, really disappointing.

I wonder if the font size issue is because of display resolution. It looks perfect on my screen, but I usually have to zoom into pages to make them readable.

1080p monitor, full screen, 96 pixels to the nominal 'inch'. Looks nice actually. Its that header...

Re: A List Apart 5.0

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When I design website related work in Photoshop, I have a section of layers that contains shapes with dimensions of the common resolutions ie: MBA 1366 x 768, 1024 x 768, etc.

I'm a bit surprised that the huge image isn't responsive so that it changes in size - to always show or hint that there's something below the fold (ie: https://yourkarma.com/ )

This new design have nothing to indicate there are stuff below the fold when viewed on a MBA 1366x768 or any with 768 height - it looks like a giant magazine cover. Unless that was the intended effect.

(But then I'm using Chrome, so might look different in other browsers)

Re: A List Apart 5.0

#37
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://imageshack.us/a/img228/8256/alat.png I see the same thing. I have a hard time believing it is intentional, but even so, I think it looks sloppy.

I don't think it looks sloppy. It's intentionally styled like a magazine. Magazines deliberately break typographic conventions.

I've never looked at a quality magazine cover and thought 'did they mean to for it look like that?'

I thought that with this page.

So, that's one glaring difference.

Re: A List Apart 5.0

#38
post #4

I am using Chrome on Windows 7. The menu bar on the top of the page cuts off the title and the bottom of the page slightly cuts off the * FOR PEOPLE WHO MAKE WEBSITES. Is that the way it should look?

Same happens in Firefox 18 on Linux

Re: A List Apart 5.0

#39
post #17

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But they are not putting content in the spotlight, they are putting unreadable letter bottoms and empty space in the spotlight, the content is shoved away to somewhere far down. Maybe the design works on a tablet in portrait mode, but not on a laptop screen. To see more the four lines of content there, you have to scroll.

I think that the site is suffering from heavy load and some image(s) was/were not transferred to your browser; there should be an image, not empty space. No, it's not perfect, but better than most sites. No distracting sidebars, no ugly social media buttons, nothing extra (except the letter bottoms).

Oh, I see. Now that the server has recovered a bit, the image is loaded, too, and it shoves the content even further down. All I can see now is the lower half of the site title and the upper half of the article headline.

There is a certain artistic consistency in that, but from a usability standpoint I would call this only a partial improvement over the situation with the missing image.

Re: A List Apart 5.0

#40
post #26

I'm kind of at a loss for words. It used to be unique and friendly, and now it is just another Medium, 37signals, altered Bootstrap-looking thing with no personality. Not including dates in the highlighted articles on the homepage (and only highlighting two to begin with?), along with putting it at the bottom of the "More From" is a huge miss (as the date of these types of articles is important to the context and to…

I've always found A List Apart something of a contradiction: a lot of their articles are better than average, but their design and usability have always been weak. Mostly, I drop in every few days to see if there's a new feature article, and don't even notice anything else on the site. So while I dislike just about everything "arty" about the new design, for many of the same reasons as you, I'm hoping the quality of the articles will stay up and I'll still get something interesting to read every couple of weeks.
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