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Dwolla Begins PayPal-Style Account Suspensions for Bitcoiners

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Re: Dwolla Begins PayPal-Style Account Suspensions for Bitcoiners

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Bitcoin provides me more utility than Dwolla at this point.

What do you use as an exchange to buy bitcoins? Have you just been mining for a long time so you've accumulated a bunch? Do you use Mt. Gox?

Give Coinbase.com a try - you an connect any U.S. bank account to buy/sell bitcoin. (A YC company).

Re: Dwolla Begins PayPal-Style Account Suspensions for Bitcoiners

#22

Dwolla was shitty to Bitcoin users earlier on. That's why I still have a bad taste in my mouth when hearing about them. Fortunate for them, I still hate Paypal more.

No, you misunderstand. The vast majority of Dwolla's success is due to bitcoin.

Throughout 2011 it was the primary method of converting USD to bitcoin. It was practically their whole business.

During the hype that brought bitcoin to it's highest price so far, Dwolla's profits exploded.

Looking at their promo e-mails, the amount of time between them going from 1M/week in transactions to 1M/day in transactions was only one month.

Once they got big enough, they've not only turned on the people that built their empire, but are now actively targeting them.

It's hard for me to decide if I hate Paypal or Dwolla more.

Re: Dwolla Begins PayPal-Style Account Suspensions for Bitcoiners

#23
post #13
post #6

I'm curious what people on HN believe the future holds for Bitcoins. I expect the US government will step in in the not to far future and severely restrict the ability to legitimately exchange Bitcoins for dollars. I'm not passing any judgement on Bitcoins themselves, it just seems unlikely to me that people in places of power will be ok with an independent currency.

As with many groups, there are factions within the US.gov some that like BTC and some that hate it. The FBI, law enforcement groups, and the Intelligence Community like it; BTC leaves trails and localizes evidence of guilt in some significant ways that make their job easier. They probably don't like BTC mixing services all that much, but that just means that they are at a slightly higher priority for monitoring and t…

linking BTC addresses to PII? what does this mean?

Re: Dwolla Begins PayPal-Style Account Suspensions for Bitcoiners

#24
post #22

Dwolla was shitty to Bitcoin users earlier on. That's why I still have a bad taste in my mouth when hearing about them. Fortunate for them, I still hate Paypal more.

No, you misunderstand. The vast majority of Dwolla's success is due to bitcoin. Throughout 2011 it was the primary method of converting USD to bitcoin. It was practically their whole business. During the hype that brought bitcoin to it's highest price so far, Dwolla's profits exploded. Looking at their promo e-mails, the amount of time between them going from 1M/week in transactions to 1M/day in transactions was only…

Dwolla:Bitcoin::YouTube:Daily Show clips

Re: Dwolla Begins PayPal-Style Account Suspensions for Bitcoiners

#25
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As with many groups, there are factions within the US.gov some that like BTC and some that hate it. The FBI, law enforcement groups, and the Intelligence Community like it; BTC leaves trails and localizes evidence of guilt in some significant ways that make their job easier. They probably don't like BTC mixing services all that much, but that just means that they are at a slightly higher priority for monitoring and t…

linking BTC addresses to PII? what does this mean?

PII means "Personally identifiable information", if that's what the confusion is?

Re: Dwolla Begins PayPal-Style Account Suspensions for Bitcoiners

#26
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As with many groups, there are factions within the US.gov some that like BTC and some that hate it. The FBI, law enforcement groups, and the Intelligence Community like it; BTC leaves trails and localizes evidence of guilt in some significant ways that make their job easier. They probably don't like BTC mixing services all that much, but that just means that they are at a slightly higher priority for monitoring and t…

linking BTC addresses to PII? what does this mean?

i think PII is publicly identifying information (a public identity)?

Re: Dwolla Begins PayPal-Style Account Suspensions for Bitcoiners

#27
post #6

I'm curious what people on HN believe the future holds for Bitcoins. I expect the US government will step in in the not to far future and severely restrict the ability to legitimately exchange Bitcoins for dollars. I'm not passing any judgement on Bitcoins themselves, it just seems unlikely to me that people in places of power will be ok with an independent currency.

I expect USG to simply destroy it at some point with a sustained 51% attack.

Re: Dwolla Begins PayPal-Style Account Suspensions for Bitcoiners

#28
post #6

I'm curious what people on HN believe the future holds for Bitcoins. I expect the US government will step in in the not to far future and severely restrict the ability to legitimately exchange Bitcoins for dollars. I'm not passing any judgement on Bitcoins themselves, it just seems unlikely to me that people in places of power will be ok with an independent currency.

It will just get used in the rest of the world anyway.

Re: Dwolla Begins PayPal-Style Account Suspensions for Bitcoiners

#29
post #9

I've had my account for 2 years with no problems; however, that doesn't ease me the fear that my account may be suspended and require government ID when I hit some limit. I barely use Dwolla now. Coinbase (YC S12) has replaced it for me.

Do you not have government ID or is it because of not wanting to be attached to purchases you make / services you order or render? Not meaning any accusatory tone, just to note. I understand privacy.

Re: Dwolla Begins PayPal-Style Account Suspensions for Bitcoiners

#30
post #22

Dwolla was shitty to Bitcoin users earlier on. That's why I still have a bad taste in my mouth when hearing about them. Fortunate for them, I still hate Paypal more.

No, you misunderstand. The vast majority of Dwolla's success is due to bitcoin. Throughout 2011 it was the primary method of converting USD to bitcoin. It was practically their whole business. During the hype that brought bitcoin to it's highest price so far, Dwolla's profits exploded. Looking at their promo e-mails, the amount of time between them going from 1M/week in transactions to 1M/day in transactions was only…

You're not their target market then, the masses. You're the evangelists, their first users to prove the need.
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