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Gmail's Second Major Problem
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Re: Gmail's Second Major Problem
#32Your problem is that you're relying on a method of communication that was never guaranteed to be instantaneous. Maybe you should investigate other forms of communication within your team besides (or in conjunction) with email.
Exactly my thoughts. Not to down play the problem because it definitely is one Google should at very least address but even if Gmail was up 100% of the time with no problems there should always be communication redundancy. Instant messaging, file hosting services, other email providers.
Re: Gmail's Second Major Problem
#33"Take my money. I’d pay $50 / month to get reliable service; others would be willing to pay orders of magnitude more."
Should be "order of magnitude more".
Getting really tired of tech writers using "orders of magnitude" hyperbole when its not really the case.
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Also don't like him complaining on not receiving an "urgent" email in time. Urgent communications require phone calls.
Re: Gmail's Second Major Problem
#34I've had massive delivery delays every so often with gmail and they're a little irritating, sure, but quite frankly email makes no guarantees about delivery time. If you need guaranteed fast delivery maybe email isn't the answer.
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#35$50 -> $1000 is one order of magnitude.
Not "orders".
Orders of magnitude hyperbole needs to stop.
Why not write "some would pay $1000 a month" when quoting the Graham article. You didn't even show you have users willing to pay $5000 a month for gmail which would in be the "orders of magnitude" you wrote.
Re: Gmail's Second Major Problem
#36The author is furious about a technology that was not designed for instantaneous delivery (SMTP) and fumes about it, because it isn't instantaneous. What's worse is, he quickly assumes goes into some kind of 'super-hero mode' and makes a pretty heavy claim that this is Gmail's second biggest problem . I think this is the best approach - If someone hands over you a free glass of wine, which they've tried their level b…
Well, I'd at least complain that the wine somehow turned into beer...
Re: Gmail's Second Major Problem
#37The author is furious about a technology that was not designed for instantaneous delivery (SMTP) and fumes about it, because it isn't instantaneous. What's worse is, he quickly assumes goes into some kind of 'super-hero mode' and makes a pretty heavy claim that this is Gmail's second biggest problem . I think this is the best approach - If someone hands over you a free glass of wine, which they've tried their level b…
No doubt SMTP is asynchronous, but a lag of 115 minutes? For a consumer that is way too high to live with, whatever say the standards.
But obviously the title of the article and probably the topic borders on a flame-bait.
Re: Gmail's Second Major Problem
#38"Take my money. I’d pay $50 / month to get reliable service; others would be willing to pay orders of magnitude more." Should be "order of magnitude more". Getting really tired of tech writers using "orders of magnitude" hyperbole when its not really the case. ---- Also don't like him complaining on not receiving an "urgent" email in time. Urgent communications require phone calls.
Well, there are many reasons you could need an urgent email for something that wouldn't be satisfied over the phone. Sending a contract or a statement of work, for example. Sure it could be faxed, if both parties have fax. It could be put on Dropbox, if both parties have Dropbox, etc.
If it's not just a communication but rather an exchange of data, a phone call won't suffice. The author even mentioned that he had called the person, who resent the email 4 times. Obviously a phone call isn't what needed to happen. There's just a lack of good file transfer solutions on the Internet.
Re: Gmail's Second Major Problem
#39Anecdotally, I wonder if the reason I don't see this as much as I used to is because the quick email discussions I have happen almost entirely between Gmail users.
Re: Gmail's Second Major Problem
#40The author is furious about a technology that was not designed for instantaneous delivery (SMTP) and fumes about it, because it isn't instantaneous. What's worse is, he quickly assumes goes into some kind of 'super-hero mode' and makes a pretty heavy claim that this is Gmail's second biggest problem . I think this is the best approach - If someone hands over you a free glass of wine, which they've tried their level b…
Isn't the 115 minute lag in the screenshot lag between one Google SMTP server and another Google SMTP server? That seems like a problem Google should be able to address.