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Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by mbillie1 »

marcamillion wrote: post #206

This is par for the course in the Rails community. Once some Rails devs get more experienced, they think it's ok to shit on everyone else. Granted, not all are like that...but many are. God forbid you should stumble into #RubyOnRails on IRC. Thank God for Stack Overflow!

This to me is very unfortunate. I'm an experienced Ruby and RubyOnRails developer, and I think that this is totally unacceptable. This is why the Python community flourishes (and I learned to code with Python!), and the Ruby community, which has unfortunately become equated to the Rails community, relatively languishes.

I also think it's pretty funny/awful/ridiculous to see Rails devs hating on JS code. (JS is difficult to write well, and is NO LESS FUBAR than your average 3+year old Rails app). As recently as Rails 2.x, Rails was using Prototype... how'd that work out? For fuck's sake, how much human decency does it take to be civilized and constructive?

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Post by anthonyb »

byroot wrote: post #159
anthonyb wrote: post #127

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No, Linus is often gratuitously rude.

Got a link ? Of Linus being gratuitously rude with a perfect stranger ?

Linus and Nvidia: http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/06/torvalds-nvidia...

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by ceol »

akent wrote: post #203
jamesaguilar wrote: post #165

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Textbook weasel apology.

Note the date; this one was from 2010. His most recent post is http://blog.steveklabnik.com/posts/2013-01-23-node

From that post:

> Twitter makes it so hard not to accidentally be an asshole.

No, I'm pretty sure being an asshole makes it so hard not to accidentally be an asshole. Plenty of people, including Heather, weren't assholes on Twitter.

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by mbillie1 »

manish_gill wrote: post #196

I don't care how "popular" these guys are, they are douchebags. This kind of bullshit behavior is stopping me from trying Ruby.

This makes me sad, as a Ruby dev. This does not represent all of us, although apparently it represents a lot of the higher-profile public-facing members of the "Ruby" (Rails) community.

There are lots of us aren't like this. I guess we will have to become more vocal.

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by readme »

mrb wrote: post #200

Heather, I agree that people are unnecessarily rude to you. Don't sob. Your code shows you are already a more capable programmer than most of the ones I interview. No one has given you a clear answer as to why your code is reinventing the wheel, so allow me to do it politely. I took every single example from your README, and show you below how everything can be reimplemented with sed -r (nice extended regex syntax, m…

There's another reason to reinvent the wheel:

    $ replace "Foo" "Bar"
is common sense and easy to understand.

Not to mention that sed -i is a GNU extension.

I haven't used replace but it seems like a pretty innocent piece of helpful code for someone who likes JS.

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by illuminate »

DanBC wrote: post #136
kyro wrote: post #121

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At this point, I blame it on the assumption that Aspergers must run rampant and is severely underdiagnosed in the dev community.

I understand your point, but "makes my eyes bleed" is not a typical comment from a neuro-atypical person. The neuro-typical can be assholes too.

"I understand your point, but "makes my eyes bleed" is not a typical comment from a neuro-atypical person."

Why not, out of curiosity?

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by illuminate »

yen223 wrote: post #92
quasque wrote: post #82

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I wouldn't be at all surprised if there was a strong undercurrent of misogyny involved here, motivating their incivility and rudeness.

It's the reverse - a lack of civility among those alpha-nerd types leads to the general acceptance of misogyny (and racism, for that matter) among them.

They both feed into each other.

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Post by jiggy2011 »

benatkin wrote: post #171
kyro wrote: post #121

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At this point, I blame it on the assumption that Aspergers must run rampant and is severely underdiagnosed in the dev community.

I think it's autism that must run rampant and that it's underdiagnosed partly because people have called it Asperger's which doesn't seem as serious. With the new version of the DSM this won't happen as often.

There is a huge gulf between Asperger's and full blown autism.

People with Aspergers are "normal" people in the sense that they are generally capable of looking after themselves, communicating and working normal jobs etc

People will full Autism have severely limited communication skills (often no spoken or written language skills at all beyond repeating a handful of phrases) and require a significant amount of assistance in most areas of life. They will often live with full time carers.

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Post by Domenic_S »

SomeCallMeTim wrote: post #253
enjo wrote: post #214

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I'd ague that her version is at the very least syntactically much easier to use.

Hear hear! I've had a sed book on my shelf for years and I've used it more than once, but 99% of the time I end up giving up on sed and using a GUI-based tool instead of trying to concoct the cryptic lines given above as examples. I absolutely would rather use the clean interface of replace, written in JavaScript or anything else, than to memorize that steaming pile of cruft.

Two reasons why it's better to memorize the cruft:

1. You can pipe find/sed/grep/cut/awk/whatever to other utils. Today you might be replacing, tomorrow you might be analyzing text logs, and the more core utils you learn the more things you can do with them.

2. When you're ssh'd into another box that doesn't have that spiffy replace utility, now you don't know how to do an inline replace.

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by lengarvey »

ryaf wrote: post #240
akent wrote: post #203

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Note the date; this one was from 2010. His most recent post is http://blog.steveklabnik.com/posts/2013-01-23-node

And it's still a weasel apology

Generally a weasel apology would be:

"I'm sorry If I made someone feel bad"

Not

"I am sorry. I feel terrible that I made someone else feel terrible."

Corey's apology did feel nicer, but I don't think that Steve's was a bad apology.

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