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What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by magikarp »

thirsteh wrote: post #158
magikarp wrote: post #154

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Oh absolutely. As Schneier noted in that blog post, we did solve the issues that were presented to us, switched to a signed browser plugin, OTR, got a full audit, and so on. But other than the handful of awesome and helpful critique, man were people assholes on Twitter. I stand by Cryptocat being a usable privacy tool today, and I think we were quite responsible in our development process. There's always media hype m…

Yeah, don't get me wrong. People who have nothing to add can go disappear.

Thanks, man.

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Post by jiggy2011 »

gfodor wrote: post #130
mintplant wrote: post #58

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Even stranger is the fact that harther isn't exactly a novice programmer: apparently, she's part of Mozilla [1], and wrote brain.js [2], a neural network library in JavaScript with almost 1,400 stars on GitHub. [1] https://twitter.com/harthvader [2] https://github.com/harthur/brain

which is doubly embarrassing for the people insulting her because odds are anyone taking the time chastising someone's hacky duct tape script as if it were a Real Thing Worth Talking About probably has no comprehension of real algorithmic work, real computer science , like that needed to implement neural nets.

To be fair implementing a simple neural network is probably about par for the course as a sophomore CS undergrad project.

The basic algorithms you need can be found via google.

In my (extremely limited) experience the much more difficult part is using them to successfully solve real world problems.

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Post by confluence »

coreyhaines wrote: post #153

Others have linked to this, but, as one of the people who was in the bad, I want to say I'm sorry. http://programmingtour.blogspot.com/2013/01/im-sorry.html

Good that you didn't double down.

Wouldn't want to be on the back end of a hacker news shit storm :)

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Post by enjo »

mrb wrote: post #200

Heather, I agree that people are unnecessarily rude to you. Don't sob. Your code shows you are already a more capable programmer than most of the ones I interview. No one has given you a clear answer as to why your code is reinventing the wheel, so allow me to do it politely. I took every single example from your README, and show you below how everything can be reimplemented with sed -r (nice extended regex syntax, m…

I'd ague that her version is at the very least syntactically much easier to use.

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Post by keyboardP »

MartinCron wrote: post #174
sinak wrote: post #131

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Corey Haines wrote a thoughtful apology here: http://programmingtour.blogspot.com/2013/01/im-sorry.html Only one of the three to do so thus far.

Classy. None of the "I am sorry if you were offended bullshit" just a sincere "I messed up". Take note, just about everyone else.

I agree. Everyone makes mistakes at some point and that apology seems to be the best possible way to deal with it IMHO.

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Post by RaphiePS »

mrb wrote: post #200

Heather, I agree that people are unnecessarily rude to you. Don't sob. Your code shows you are already a more capable programmer than most of the ones I interview. No one has given you a clear answer as to why your code is reinventing the wheel, so allow me to do it politely. I took every single example from your README, and show you below how everything can be reimplemented with sed -r (nice extended regex syntax, m…

Am I the only one who finds replace's syntax much nicer?

I haven't spent much time learning unix utilities, so that might explain it. But I can't help but shudder at find . -type f ! -name '.min.js' ! -name '.py' -print0 | xargs -0 sed -ri 's,var,let,g'

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Post by mark_l_watson »

I don't do much JavaScript or Node development but her projects look cool. As frustrating as this must have been for Heather, I hope that in the long run she might get some value from the publicity.

I was going to comment on the twits (misspelling intentional) but decided to stay positive.

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Post by aaronblohowiak »

res0nat0r wrote: post #176
byroot wrote: post #159

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Got a link ? Of Linus being gratuitously rude with a perfect stranger ?

Linus telling someone to shut the fuck up last month: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4962912

Different because Mauro is talking on behalf of the Kernel and claiming obviously bad changes are good ones. Linus is reprimanding a subordinate that is supposed to be one of the most well-informed members of the Linux community as a kernel maintainer -- he's not criticizing a stranger for posting a tiny script in case it "might be useful".

Linus is DFL (not so benevolent sometimes) of Linux, and can lash out when one of his trusted lieutenants is acting like an idiot. What these guys did is call out a stranger on the street and said "YOU SUCK!"

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Post by mylittlepony »

nikatwork wrote: post #177
jmillikin wrote: post #67

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> Regarding the actual program, I don't write shell > utilities in JavaScript so I can't say whether it's a > good or a bad implementation. It's just not my space. According to some other posts here, the quoted mockers are Ruby programmers. I believe the Twitter posts are about the concept of writing sed in Node-Javascript, not necessarily the implementation. As I understand it there's something of a rivalry between…

So there is some truth to the stereotype of the angry asshole Rubyist? I thought the community had moved on since those days. I've been tossing up whether to learn Ruby or Clojure next, and this kind of crap is a real turn-off for Ruby.

Having tried Ruby for a year, I have experimented this myself. With a strong OOP background, I can assert that it's not even an elite that enjoys ridiculing noobs.

It reminded me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX3iRjKj7C0

Also, just look at the top comment in that video. The irony.

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