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Re: Actual Facebook Graph Searches

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Post by wtvanhest »

mseebach wrote: post #182
mark_integerdsv wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> YES people should be allowed to be gay in Tehran, and YES Facebook should help them with that - and they do: By not requiring you to enter your sexuality. Forget about being gay in Tehran. How about being gay in cyberspace? It strikes me that you are of the belief that cyberspace ought to mimic life in meatspace directly. That one fixed identity should be all a person is entitled to. What a waste of so many wonderf…

> It strikes me that you are of the belief that cyberspace ought to mimic life in meatspace directly. If it's a problem that Facebook uncovers someone who's gay in Tehran, then that is only because that persons cyberspace identity mimics his meatspace one. If the gay person in Tehran profile doesn't actually link up to a physical person in Tehran, then there's no added danger to anyone.

Does anyone on this thread know why they have to identify the people's photos and names in the search to still allow marketers to be succesful?

If it didn't identify individuals would it be any less useful to marketers?

Re: Actual Facebook Graph Searches

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Post by josteink »

beatpanda wrote: post #155
hamax wrote: post #147

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> Facebook hides privacy settings I have a direct link to privacy settings in the header. I don't know how can they make it more visible.

Chart me a path from the privacy settings dialog in the header to changing the visibility of individual "likes", such that the average user can prepare to hide from random strangers when Open Graph Search goes public. I dare you.

> Chart me a path from the privacy settings dialog in the header to changing the visibility of individual "likes",

And if he manages to do that, ask him to chart one which will be valid 2 months from now.

They keep changing that shit. Keeping up to speed is just a completely overwhelming sort of task which even most people who care about privacy wont have the stamina to do.

Re: Actual Facebook Graph Searches

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Post by Buzaga »

ohwp wrote: post #185

This only shows a lot of people take data without context as "truth". Example: I might work for a charity related to prostitutes. So ofcourse there is a possibility that I "like" something that has to do with prostitutes. I think lack of context is what's most dangerous these days.

everyone judges.. if potential employees, bullies, potential clients find the guy in something like this there's damage already...

Re: Actual Facebook Graph Searches

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Post by redwood »

hamax wrote: post #147
beatpanda wrote: post #81

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I appreciate the information, but this misses the point. Facebook hides privacy settings because privacy is bad for their business objectives, and most people will never bother to dig for these settings, leaving them open to the kinds of attacks demonstrated by the original post.

> Facebook hides privacy settings I have a direct link to privacy settings in the header. I don't know how can they make it more visible.

Yes but the settings are complex and counter-intuitive for average users.

Re: Actual Facebook Graph Searches

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Post by driverdan »

derleth wrote: post #97
achompas wrote: post #40

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Nothing good can come out of applying dumb algorithms (that is, any algorithm) to a sufficiently rich "social graph"; it will always lead to situations like that which are, at best, embarrassing, and at worst, dangerous, for whoever is in the system. What does this even mean? The "dumb algorithm" here will (a) take a user's query and (b) search that user's friends and public profiles for hits on that query. What's ne…

> If you don't like it, then quit. Assuming you're socially allowed to quit Facebook.

Because people didn't have a social life or communicate before there was Facebook? Give me a break.

Re: Actual Facebook Graph Searches

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Post by driverdan »

brianchu wrote: post #51

Contrary to what a lot of people think, you can change the visibility of likes . This affects Graph Search, Timeline visibility, and also page visibility (I've personally tested these). The Admins of pages you like will still be able to see that you like their page. Go to the Likes page on your timeline. Click the Edit button in the upper right. Privacy visibility buttons will pop up next to each Like category for yo…

Or perhaps don't like things you don't want other people to know about? Seems like the simplest solution.

Re: Actual Facebook Graph Searches

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Post by mseebach »

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #23

Apple Inc Employees Who Like Android: https://www.facebook.com/search/103818329656399/likers/13794... People who like Barack Obama and Mitt Romney: https://www.facebook.com/search/6815841748/likers/2139280112... People who like MPAA and The Pirate Bay: https://www.facebook.com/search/108476252505746/likers/11101...

The semantics of "like", especially in the context where you "like" an organisation, has changed to "follows" or "subscribes to".

Re: Actual Facebook Graph Searches

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Post by boboblong »

mark_integerdsv wrote: post #189
mseebach wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It strikes me that you are of the belief that cyberspace ought to mimic life in meatspace directly. If it's a problem that Facebook uncovers someone who's gay in Tehran, then that is only because that persons cyberspace identity mimics his meatspace one. If the gay person in Tehran profile doesn't actually link up to a physical person in Tehran, then there's no added danger to anyone.

Maybe we missed each other... In my example I am talking about a man whose identity is necessarily hidden in meatspace due to an oppressive government. Cyberspace allows him freedom from this oppression. Hope that makes it clearer.

Wait, then what's the problem?

Re: Actual Facebook Graph Searches

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Post by boboblong »

mosselman wrote: post #140
achompas wrote: post #40

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Nothing good can come out of applying dumb algorithms (that is, any algorithm) to a sufficiently rich "social graph"; it will always lead to situations like that which are, at best, embarrassing, and at worst, dangerous, for whoever is in the system. What does this even mean? The "dumb algorithm" here will (a) take a user's query and (b) search that user's friends and public profiles for hits on that query. What's ne…

It is obvious that you either didn't read the search queries on the linked page, or you don't understand the impact that some of these queries can have on peoples' lives. People are stupid, so when warned, the will still act stupid. Despite this it is still the responsibility of whoever is able, to protect them, even against themselves. I also agree with the argument of others here that facebook, to some, seems like…

>People are stupid, so when warned, the will still act stupid. Despite this it is still the responsibility of whoever is able, to protect them, even against themselves.

Is this really a mainstream political philosophy on HN?

Re: Actual Facebook Graph Searches

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Post by boboblong »

psbp wrote: post #100
corporalagumbo wrote: post #91

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Yet again, I struggle to make sense of what exactly you're trying to say. You're using a lot of big words, but not necessarily making your point clear. What does "making a dispersion of self and novelty apparent" mean?

The ability to express your self uniquely among different groups of people without residual consequences, and the ability to explore disparate interests in the same way.

But what about free ponies?
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