no, but it does get in the way of finishing what you have created.
Does having a high IQ make you less creative?
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#32I'd say that obsession and monomania about one form of cognition makes you less creative, and high IQ people are often so impressed with their analytical intellect that they fall into the trap of disregarding other mental capabilities.
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#33"Write as many different uses that you can think of for the following objects: a brick... average students had much more diverse answers than students with high I.Q.’s. " Asking a question like list things you can do with a brick is meaningless, since there's no metric to measure the ideas by. Anyone can list an unlimited number of completely ridiculous (and diverse) ideas if they want to, just many would find that p…
>And ridiculous creativity isn't helpful either, what's needed in life is good ideas.
I think the point is to separate creativity and intelligence as two orthogonal concepts. A creative person will filter out fewer thoughts, an intelligent person will make better decisions from their thoughts. It's possible to have both, and I think those are the most successful people.
When I think of the combination of creative and intelligent I think of Bobby Fischer. Back when I used to play tournament chess I went through every game from his book "60 Memorable Games", and I was amazed at how creative he was: he would often pick game-winning moves that I would never consider. This is part of what made him the greatest chess player of his time.
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#34It's tempting to look at IQ as a potential for everything, but as one having access to a lot of ultra-smart people (I'm doing PhD in theoretical physics) it's very easy to see that creativity lies on a different axis. And during studies I've met many people who were able to solve very hard mathematical problems, but at the same time - were seemingly unable to create new ones on their own. (And also, creativity many t…
the problem is that for higher IQ's you at the end of the distribution so the effect of errors is much higher maybe the two Nobels just had a cold or a bad day when they took the test. And how do you factor conditions like dyslexia in I have seen suggestions that dyslexics score 15 or 20 points off so by that mark I am a genius :-)
That's a very good point, especially given that the standard deviation of IQ scores is 15, which suggests that scores of between 125 and 140 are possible (indeed, somewhat likely) for the same individual - a finding which I have found in my own experience of taking them.
Additionally, IQ tests were developed to assess someone's ability to benefit from formal education, and to the extent that these skills are uncorrelated with successful outcomes, IQ will be a poor predictor of it.
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#35"Write as many different uses that you can think of for the following objects: a brick... average students had much more diverse answers than students with high I.Q.’s. " Asking a question like list things you can do with a brick is meaningless, since there's no metric to measure the ideas by. Anyone can list an unlimited number of completely ridiculous (and diverse) ideas if they want to, just many would find that p…
>And ridiculous creativity isn't helpful either, what's needed in life is good ideas. I think the point is to separate creativity and intelligence as two orthogonal concepts. A creative person will filter out fewer thoughts, an intelligent person will make better decisions from their thoughts. It's possible to have both, and I think those are the most successful people. When I think of the combination of creative and…
If you can't be as good as Bobby Fischer, try to spend your issue with people have different skills to you. The best academic collaborations I know of all contain a "generator" and a "filter" of ideas.
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#36The blog post was good, but the title was completely misleading. I was expecting a scientific / thorough look at the title question, and there was absolutely nothing to that effect. However, the real subject of this post -- "Methods To Increase Your Intelligence" -- was rather well done.
Thought that could perform better with this tittle rather to the one you sugested, anyways will have it in mind for my future posts. Thank you.
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#37This was a better and more original blog post than I expected from the title. The finding from the Terman study is rather important, and should be more widely known. The definitive book about the Terman study, written by a Stanford University Press Office science journalist who was the first independent researcher to have access to study files, is Joel Shurkin's Terman's Kids (1992). https://www.kirkusreviews.com/boo…
>> I admire people who participate here even though they didn't grow up speaking English at home.
I concur. It is, however, why I wish that there was a side-channel specifically for notifying someone of grammar or spelling issues. It'd be useful to let people know if they're using non-standard constructions without the notification being public. Email would be overkill for this purpose.
Re: Does having a high IQ make you less creative?
#38To respond to the title, having a high IQ does not make you less creative. Simple.
As for the Terman study, I think people with high IQ scores don't "go places" mainly due to laziness, lack of ambition (failing to see the point in it all), or due constant harassment by those envious of their intelligence or those that feel inferior, or those that see an easy target. After years of taking a beating many end up leading simple lives in which they hope to just survive.
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#39This was a better and more original blog post than I expected from the title. The finding from the Terman study is rather important, and should be more widely known. The definitive book about the Terman study, written by a Stanford University Press Office science journalist who was the first independent researcher to have access to study files, is Joel Shurkin's Terman's Kids (1992). https://www.kirkusreviews.com/boo…
Terman and IQ are also mentioned in "How Would You Move Mount Fuji" (http://www.amazon.com/How-Would-Move-Mount-Fuji/dp/031677849...). I recommend it to anyone interested in brainteasers and how Microsoft and a lot of other companies use them during the interviewing process...
Now back to the article: it was an enjoyable read, but I believe the title is somewhat misleading. High IQ does not make you less creative. However high IQ does not imply creativity. The converse is also not true. I am a bit tired of IQ being used as some kind of objective measure of capabilities, let alone success. Is there any other test that would be more representative of one's mental abilities?
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#40> His fieldworkers actually tested two elementary students who went on to be Nobel laureates William Shockley and Luis Alvarez�and rejected them both.Their IQs weren't high enough. Terman concluded: "We have seen that intellect and achievement are far from perfectly correlated."
Both just barely failed the cutoff, and given the very low base-rate of Nobelists, it's not surprising that there would be misses. This is the same logic as with terrorism-detecting systems.
> The relationship between success and IQ works only up to a point. Once someone has reached an IQ of somewhere around 120, having additional IQ points doesn't seem to translate into any measurable real-world advantage. -
Wrong. The correlation doesn't go away in the Terman report, nor does it go away in the later long-term SMPY studies. What happens past 130 or so is that IQ loses predictive value compared to Extraversion (for income) or Conscientiousness and Openness (for discoveries).
> For your surprise an English researcher named Liam Hudson found that average students had much more diverse answers than students with high I.Q.�s.
And yet - to go back to the submission title - when you measure Openness, it's the only Big Five personality to show a correlation with IQ. The correlation is positive and not negligible (r=0.3 or so, IIRC). So why does one sample about divergent thinking matter?