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Re: PHP needs a vision

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PHP would do well getting proper weak references in play, regardless of vision. No easy task at this point, sadly :( More specifically: Put in proper weak refs -> get lexical scoping -> get first class functions.

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Re: PHP needs a vision

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One nice side affect of this is that PHP can suit both novice and experienced programmers. Newbies don't have to learn OO before they write Hello World.

Yeah, and thanks to this, you end up with a "beast" like Magento, written by "experienced" programmers, and then you have novices tasked with writing themes and components for it, but it doesn't work that way because the "beast" is not "black boxed" well enough for the novices to ignore it. (I keep quoting "experienced" here because the example Magento is just "Java written in PHP" and I'd fire anyone turning up this…

Unless you can offer any real alternatives to Magento I have to call bullshit, yes the framework is far from perfect and PHP is not the prettiest language.

But calling Magento "Java written in PHP" without offering alternatives, specific criticism or any backing of the argument is just childish.

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