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Trailer now available for Ray Kurzweil's movie, "Transcendent Man"

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Re: Trailer now available for Ray Kurzweil's movie, "Transcendent Man"

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Whatever this guy thinks he can do, I am sure he won't be able to make humans live forever, or even "get his father back to life". Maybe he can make a machine that lives forever, but he can't make a human to live forever. There are things that god forced in this world, and it will continue regardless if you believe in god or not. And I think that god forced humans to die, and this won't change in the future.

Well one can always ask just how long did god intend humans to live? Was it 30, 60, 90, 120, 150 or 180 yrs? I think well see all of those as possible answers, given the advance of medicine and engineering. If by god you mean "stochastic calculus".. then yes, I do believe in god, and he has mysterious ways indeed :]

About God, he has created you, me, and the whole world [the world of creatures]. And even if some people try to deny God, he is there and we need him.

Well, advance of medicine and engineering?

Did medicine help prevent people die at age 5 or 6 yrs old? There is something called "fate", and I guess you don't believe in it too.

Re: Trailer now available for Ray Kurzweil's movie, "Transcendent Man"

#42

"[Kurzweil] says computers will have human consciousness in 25 years." Wait is this one of those 1980s AI-in-25-years predictions or is this a new 2009 We're Really Serious This Time, Guys prediction?

Actually, he's said the year 2029 for a long time now.

I think Kurzweil should be more explicit in step two.

Re: Trailer now available for Ray Kurzweil's movie, "Transcendent Man"

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It's horrible. I like Kurzweil and singularity doesn't seem so unlikely - just the trailer is unbearable for me, for too many reasons to count (like cutting from Captain Kirk to "The Singularity Is Near" lieing on a desk).

agreed.. but thankfully captain kirk gets to speak and thus his dignity is preserved.. as befits his stature as ambassador for all humanity.

HAH. Well said. Plus, if any aliens get out of hand he can kick ass with the tonfa training he got on TJ Hooker.

Re: Trailer now available for Ray Kurzweil's movie, "Transcendent Man"

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"[Kurzweil] says computers will have human consciousness in 25 years." Wait is this one of those 1980s AI-in-25-years predictions or is this a new 2009 We're Really Serious This Time, Guys prediction?

Kurzweil is one of the few guys whose predictions I take serious, simply because his track record is solid... in fact quite a few of is predictions he's directly made happen. If you look at the claims made in "The Age of Intelligent Machines", and the follow up a decade later in "The Age of Spiritual Machines", you realize the guy is pretty on the ball. Not 100% of the time, but even when he's wrong he usually got some part of it right.

Re: Trailer now available for Ray Kurzweil's movie, "Transcendent Man"

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Yeah, I guess. A kind of intro to the Singularity for your mom. I suppose that's worth knowing about.

My mom is extremely unlikely to watch a film called "Transcendent Man". I doubt if the technical people I know would be interested. Even the people here at HN are skeptical. This film has a feeling to me of a ... startup trying to launch on technical impressiveness. Only a few people will care, and they have probably already heard about it.

Yeah, thus my original skepticism, but I'm trying to be generous. I might be able to convince my mom to watch it.

Re: Trailer now available for Ray Kurzweil's movie, "Transcendent Man"

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Cycles of peaks and troughs in growth rates are normal.

Right, but let's consider the difference between a recession and a depression. A recession is a contraction in a healthy economy. It's normal, and probably necessary. A depression is something worse. We don't know yet if this is a recession or a depression.

The D word is mainly used to fill the time in between commercials with talking heads debating irrelevant semantics. I also doubt a long recession or depression would significantly impact a decades long trend by much.

Re: Trailer now available for Ray Kurzweil's movie, "Transcendent Man"

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post #38

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Well one can always ask just how long did god intend humans to live? Was it 30, 60, 90, 120, 150 or 180 yrs? I think well see all of those as possible answers, given the advance of medicine and engineering. If by god you mean "stochastic calculus".. then yes, I do believe in god, and he has mysterious ways indeed :]

About God, he has created you, me, and the whole world [the world of creatures]. And even if some people try to deny God, he is there and we need him. Well, advance of medicine and engineering? Did medicine help prevent people die at age 5 or 6 yrs old? There is something called "fate", and I guess you don't believe in it too.

It might be more productive if you argued why others should share your belief in fate or God, instead of just stating your belief without any justification. I do believe in God, but I do not find your statements very interesting without at least some attempt to persuade.

Re: Trailer now available for Ray Kurzweil's movie, "Transcendent Man"

#49
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well one can always ask just how long did god intend humans to live? Was it 30, 60, 90, 120, 150 or 180 yrs? I think well see all of those as possible answers, given the advance of medicine and engineering. If by god you mean "stochastic calculus".. then yes, I do believe in god, and he has mysterious ways indeed :]

About God, he has created you, me, and the whole world [the world of creatures]. And even if some people try to deny God, he is there and we need him. Well, advance of medicine and engineering? Did medicine help prevent people die at age 5 or 6 yrs old? There is something called "fate", and I guess you don't believe in it too.

I think medicine has helped a _lot_ of 5 and 6 year olds...

Don't take my God comments too much to heart - Id vigorously defend your right to believe in whatever you like.

Re: Trailer now available for Ray Kurzweil's movie, "Transcendent Man"

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

About God, he has created you, me, and the whole world [the world of creatures]. And even if some people try to deny God, he is there and we need him. Well, advance of medicine and engineering? Did medicine help prevent people die at age 5 or 6 yrs old? There is something called "fate", and I guess you don't believe in it too.

I think medicine has helped a _lot_ of 5 and 6 year olds... Don't take my God comments too much to heart - Id vigorously defend your right to believe in whatever you like.

EDIT: [You are right that medicine helped alot, but what I wanted to say is... death is something that will continue to happen regardless how much scientific progress we make, and you will still find kids at 5 or 6 yrs old die regardless of any "medical progress", simply because this is what's called "fate"!

And I am sure that you heard of kids who died at very young age]

You have a right to believe in God or not, or even make your "brain" as your own God, it's all up to you.

But it's NOT funny to make jokes about God, and I had to response to you, although I knew that it will lead to reduce my karma, but I had no choice anyway.

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