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NY Congressman Introducing Ban On 3D-Printed High Capacity Gun Magazines

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Re: NY Congressman Introducing Ban On 3D-Printed High Capacity Gun Magazines

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If you ban plastic, someone will figure out a way to do it with metal. Besides, the only way a plastic magazine would be undetectable is if it were empty, which make it effectively useless anyhow.

Even then, plastic magazines (such as those for Glocks, "Pmags" for AR-15s, any many others) still have metal components, most notably the spring.

Re: NY Congressman Introducing Ban On 3D-Printed High Capacity Gun Magazines

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post #4

Who cares if a magazine can be picked up by a metal detector?

Let's see: Everyone who does screening. Everyone who poses a natural target (judges, DAs, federal officers, etc) whose protection depends on screening. Everyone who works in a federal building where they are not allowed to carry guns, and therefore relies on a metal detector to keep gun carrying people out. Everyone who flies. One could go on.

Until someone figures out a way to make plastic bullets (pedantic edit: and cartridges) I'm not going to worry too much about it.

Re: NY Congressman Introducing Ban On 3D-Printed High Capacity Gun Magazines

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's see: Everyone who does screening. Everyone who poses a natural target (judges, DAs, federal officers, etc) whose protection depends on screening. Everyone who works in a federal building where they are not allowed to carry guns, and therefore relies on a metal detector to keep gun carrying people out. Everyone who flies. One could go on.

Until someone figures out a way to make plastic bullets (pedantic edit: and cartridges) I'm not going to worry too much about it.

http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=8699

Plastic 308 rounds. Those are real projectiles, not dummy rounds.

I do not know if the entire cartridge is plastic, though. That primer definitely looks like metal. And I'm going to assume steel for the cartridge body (wow, it was hard to think of another word than 'brass').

Now, a fully plastic gun is another story...

Re: NY Congressman Introducing Ban On 3D-Printed High Capacity Gun Magazines

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post #6

> announced he would be introducing legislation to renew a ban on firearms and magazines that can't be picked up by standard metal detectors. The current ban on plastic firearms expires this year. In other words, the only thing this has to do with printed magazines is that printed magazines are being used as a talking point to promote the bill. Printed magazines, when printed with plastic, would still be picked up by…

If I were making a "non detectable by x-ray gun", I'd probably go with ceramic instead of plastic for some parts, or with using more metal, not less, to disrupt the shape (which is illegal under current law, too)

Re: NY Congressman Introducing Ban On 3D-Printed High Capacity Gun Magazines

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until someone figures out a way to make plastic bullets (pedantic edit: and cartridges) I'm not going to worry too much about it.

http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=8699 Plastic 308 rounds. Those are real projectiles, not dummy rounds. I do not know if the entire cartridge is plastic, though. That primer definitely looks like metal. And I'm going to assume steel for the cartridge body (wow, it was hard to think of another word than 'brass'). Now, a fully plastic gun is another story...

Huh, very interesting. Those would definitely be deadly (considering that even "blanks" can be). I think the cartridge body might be plastic too, if I am reading that page correctly (probably not too odd, that is how shotgun shells are often made I think).

Of course those rounds don't have enough recoil to cycle a semi-automatic rifle so I'm not sure how much of an advantage having a high-capacity magazine for those would really give anybody.

Re: NY Congressman Introducing Ban On 3D-Printed High Capacity Gun Magazines

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's see: Everyone who does screening. Everyone who poses a natural target (judges, DAs, federal officers, etc) whose protection depends on screening. Everyone who works in a federal building where they are not allowed to carry guns, and therefore relies on a metal detector to keep gun carrying people out. Everyone who flies. One could go on.

Until someone figures out a way to make plastic bullets (pedantic edit: and cartridges) I'm not going to worry too much about it.

Bullets are not the only thing which can kill even a compressed air canister which expels some sort of projectile can be lethal.

Re: NY Congressman Introducing Ban On 3D-Printed High Capacity Gun Magazines

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post #17
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until someone figures out a way to make plastic bullets (pedantic edit: and cartridges) I'm not going to worry too much about it.

Bullets are not the only thing which can kill even a compressed air canister which expels some sort of projectile can be lethal.

That really has nothing to do with plastic magazines anymore does it? I'm sure they don't allow spear guns, slingshots, and potato cannons (not metallic!) in court houses already.

Re: NY Congressman Introducing Ban On 3D-Printed High Capacity Gun Magazines

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until someone figures out a way to make plastic bullets (pedantic edit: and cartridges) I'm not going to worry too much about it.

http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=8699 Plastic 308 rounds. Those are real projectiles, not dummy rounds. I do not know if the entire cartridge is plastic, though. That primer definitely looks like metal. And I'm going to assume steel for the cartridge body (wow, it was hard to think of another word than 'brass'). Now, a fully plastic gun is another story...

Never head of those before. Very odd. Looks like the whole base is metal, which you would expect, as I'm not sure plastic would be durable/stiff enough for extracting the spent cases reliably.

Still trying to figure out what on earth these things are used for. Seems too dangerous to be used off a proper firing range. What good are they?

Re: NY Congressman Introducing Ban On 3D-Printed High Capacity Gun Magazines

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post #4

Who cares if a magazine can be picked up by a metal detector?

Let's see: Everyone who does screening. Everyone who poses a natural target (judges, DAs, federal officers, etc) whose protection depends on screening. Everyone who works in a federal building where they are not allowed to carry guns, and therefore relies on a metal detector to keep gun carrying people out. Everyone who flies. One could go on.

Newsflash: magazines aren't restricted items because they're useless without guns. Which are made of metal.

Newsflash #2: we've had plastic magazines for years already.

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