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Introducing HelloSign for Gmail

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Re: Introducing HelloSign for Gmail

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Post by jaggederest »

balbaugh wrote: post #129
nostromo wrote: post #101

I've been using the sign feature in Preview on Mac for a while now and love it. I no longer use a printer. Nice to see someone remove the download, save, and attach step. Every time I use Preview, I can't help but feel like the entire idea of a signature is archaic and strange. In effect, I'm forging my own signature with Preview, and nobody cares. While I'm at it, I wish I could not only "sign" the document, but sig…

Interesting factoid. In many states, the important thing about signatures is the intent of the signatory. Did they intend for said mark, whatever it may be, to be their signature?? If yes, then it is just that. So, for example, you could just write or type a letter "x" and you would be fine.

Finding that out, I've increasingly been prone to putting little drawings next to my name.

Re: Introducing HelloSign for Gmail

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Post by EwanToo »

samaparicio wrote: post #118
nostromo wrote: post #101

I've been using the sign feature in Preview on Mac for a while now and love it. I no longer use a printer. Nice to see someone remove the download, save, and attach step. Every time I use Preview, I can't help but feel like the entire idea of a signature is archaic and strange. In effect, I'm forging my own signature with Preview, and nobody cares. While I'm at it, I wish I could not only "sign" the document, but sig…

Just to point out that when you send a PDF document signed with Preview, I can open that document, extract your signature, and paste it in any other PDF that I want to. For me, this makes it too dangerous to use.

Unlike say a photocopier and a pair of scissors, or cutting a pasting a screenshot of a scanned document?

It's always been trivial to forge a signature to pass cursory examination, this is just another easy way.

Re: Introducing HelloSign for Gmail

#133

Post by davedx »

nostromo wrote: post #101

I've been using the sign feature in Preview on Mac for a while now and love it. I no longer use a printer. Nice to see someone remove the download, save, and attach step. Every time I use Preview, I can't help but feel like the entire idea of a signature is archaic and strange. In effect, I'm forging my own signature with Preview, and nobody cares. While I'm at it, I wish I could not only "sign" the document, but sig…

What's really strange is, AFAIK, typing your name in an electronic document is just as legally binding as inserting an image of your handwritten signature, yet many companies won't accept this, and insist instead on an image of my handwritten signature.

Any lawyers care to clarify on the law here?

Re: Introducing HelloSign for Gmail

#134

Post by ef4 »

guiseppecalzone wrote: post #113
ef4 wrote: post #47

I'm still looking forward to when HelloFax has an API. My existing providers have terrible APIs and pretty bad reliability.

Joseph here, cofounder of HelloSign. We actually have an API live for HelloSign. Is that what you were looking for? http://www.hellosign.com/info/api If so, we'd love to hear what you think.

Hello Joseph, we've exchanged emails before.

No, I meant fax, not signing.

Re: Introducing HelloSign for Gmail

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Post by eru »

davedx wrote: post #133
nostromo wrote: post #101

I've been using the sign feature in Preview on Mac for a while now and love it. I no longer use a printer. Nice to see someone remove the download, save, and attach step. Every time I use Preview, I can't help but feel like the entire idea of a signature is archaic and strange. In effect, I'm forging my own signature with Preview, and nobody cares. While I'm at it, I wish I could not only "sign" the document, but sig…

What's really strange is, AFAIK, typing your name in an electronic document is just as legally binding as inserting an image of your handwritten signature, yet many companies won't accept this, and insist instead on an image of my handwritten signature. Any lawyers care to clarify on the law here?

> What's really strange is, AFAIK, typing your name in an electronic document is just as legally binding as inserting an image of your handwritten signature, [...]

Which jurisdiction are you talking about?

Re: Introducing HelloSign for Gmail

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Post by wahsd »

Is there an official, recognized standard that this is based on? My understanding is that anything you deem as you signature, i.e., any type of symbol, is, by effect, your signature.

I appreciate HelloSign's efforts, but it seems this is simply a market generating effort akin to things like home security systems. Even the process of motorization is a hold-over from a dying age. All the metadata of documents already create a signature that can be used for authentication. I am quite sure that HelloSign probably even uses some of those signatures for their validation process.

It just kind of seems skeuomorphist. Do they support other images than squiggly lines of a varying unique manner to represent ourselves? I would like to design a logo or other image to use instead of a stone age process. Take East Asian signature seals....far cooler than squiggly lines in my opinion.

Re: Introducing HelloSign for Gmail

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Post by matb33 »

Feedback: 1) Uploaded signature via smartphone option, which is great! But cropping was very difficult. Can you make that window bigger? It was like.. 100x100

2) The bounding box for the select tool may have been imprecise -- my scan for my initials had lots of whitespace above it.

3) At one point I tried to do a rotate, and it failed, bringing me back to the screen to re-email my signature. But the Next button was gone

So far so good, this is awesome.

Re: Introducing HelloSign for Gmail

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Post by raganwald »

brk wrote: post #42

I'll be honest, I'm tired of "free". I'd rather see some definitive information under the Pricing section. I'm tired of getting "invested" in web apps that are free, and then having them pivot dramatically or go under. This is less of an issue for small things, but anything that I'm going to incorporate into my business workflow needs to have at least some semblance of a business plan apparent. Looks neat, I'll be ha…

>I'll be honest, I'm tired of "free".

I'm with you!

http://raganwald.posterous.com/dear-landlord

Re: Introducing HelloSign for Gmail

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Post by saturdaysaint »

balbaugh wrote: post #129
nostromo wrote: post #101

I've been using the sign feature in Preview on Mac for a while now and love it. I no longer use a printer. Nice to see someone remove the download, save, and attach step. Every time I use Preview, I can't help but feel like the entire idea of a signature is archaic and strange. In effect, I'm forging my own signature with Preview, and nobody cares. While I'm at it, I wish I could not only "sign" the document, but sig…

Interesting factoid. In many states, the important thing about signatures is the intent of the signatory. Did they intend for said mark, whatever it may be, to be their signature?? If yes, then it is just that. So, for example, you could just write or type a letter "x" and you would be fine.

Interesting - is there a public listing of which states this is true?

Re: Introducing HelloSign for Gmail

#140

Post by BHSPitMonkey »

meerita wrote: post #102

I worked for a company with the most complete, secure and law-reliable e-sign solution. And this kind of startups offer, well, nothing more than a straight "signature" solution. They don't offer any more than that. That signature has more o less 'Level 0' of evidence information in case you want to go a dispute. The signature method is more or less like the current signatures you will use in USA, because you don't ha…

> you're just doing an useless signature solution.

I'd have to disagree; The authors are clearly filling a need by simplifying a process that a large amount of people (many of whom are here in this thread, it seems) do on a regular basis. Is the process itself horribly flawed? Of course. But people still have to do it this way, so we may as well automate it.

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