Google Glass to Hit Developers' Hands This Month • Hacker News Board

Re: Google Glass to Hit Developers' Hands This Month

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Post by darklajid » Thu, Jan 17, 2013, 1:28 AM UTC

Sunlis wrote: post #77

zoba wrote: post #23

I'm not entirely sure of the capabilities of Glass. For instance, battery life and an ability to persistently have the camera on and displaying an overlay for extended periods seems difficult. Some of the Glass ideas I like but haven't heard much discussion over: - Facial recognition with a little popup over people's heads with their name. Never forget someone's name - Link in with Facebook or your calendar to have p…

> Have an alternate reality game with digital objects people can place/write on. Only Glass users can see the teddy bear in the corner, and only google glass users can see the giant graffiti wall where people sign their name. There's a small team at Google working on a game that uses the real world as its map, Ingress[0]. I haven't been able to get access to it yet (typical Google closed beta), but from what I've see…

Have a spare activation code. Drop me a message if you're interested.

Re: Google Glass to Hit Developers' Hands This Month

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Post by NegativeK » Thu, Jan 17, 2013, 2:09 AM UTC

Symmetry wrote: post #112

NegativeK wrote: post #108

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My point is more that pervasive, individual, recorded surveillance is a different beast than random acquaintances seeing you around town. It's really the scale of the thing -- YouTube and Ustream and the like are going to have some serious privacy concerns when masses of people want to start lifestreaming.

Wait, do you think that everybody is going to be uploading everything they see to YouTube? Different people have different comfort levels about what they put online which means that being tagged in Facebook photos can often be embarrassing, but very few people have zero desire for privacy and I don't see share-by-default taking off for lifeloggers.

I see it becoming vastly more prevalent. Maybe not when Glass comes out (particularly due to data caps,) but I imagine that surveillance/sousveillance will be notably less taboo in 10 years.

Of course, I should disclose that I became greatly interested in (at least partially edited) lifeblogging once I saw devices like the vaporwared Zion Eyez[1] or the Memoto[2].

I attempted to start recording my drives home with my phone and publishing them on YouTube, but I'm not committed enough to keep it up until it becomes frictionless. This would be a perfect example of the potentially scary surveillance -- if a number of people start autopublishing dash cam recordings, it creates a way for people/organizations/governments to data mine someone else's data for their own surveillance purposes.

[1] http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zioneyez/eyeztm-by-zione...

[2] http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/martinkallstrom/memoto-l...

Re: Google Glass to Hit Developers' Hands This Month

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Post by jimrandomh » Thu, Jan 17, 2013, 5:22 AM UTC

Is there any way to get access now, having not been at Google IO and thus not been able to preorder? I have Android computer vision experience and some projects in mind, and I'd gladly pay the preorder price for access to one of these.

Re: Google Glass to Hit Developers' Hands This Month

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Post by Rickasaurus » Thu, Jan 17, 2013, 5:33 AM UTC

I for one can't wait to get my hands on some googly-eyes

Re: Google Glass to Hit Developers' Hands This Month

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Post by r0s » Thu, Jan 17, 2013, 7:01 AM UTC

duaneb wrote: post #92

r0s wrote: post #90

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I can't think of a single feature here that wouldn't be better using existing technology on cellphones. Having these things always in your line of vision and no real input options sounds awful.

> Facial recognition with a little popup over people's heads with their name. Never forget someone's name > I can't think of a single feature here that wouldn't be better using existing technology on cellphones. It would be rather awkward to take out your phone and take a picture of someone.

You got me, but that's just one lone feature to build a platform around... and the technology isn't there yet.

Re: Google Glass to Hit Developers' Hands This Month

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Post by wingerlang » Thu, Jan 17, 2013, 7:10 AM UTC

mikedmiked wrote: post #33

taligent wrote: post #9

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Right now the primary use case of the Google Glasses is as an always-on video camera. Now most people (including myself) don't appreciate being filmed without permission and there are plenty of situations where people could be filmed committing illegal acts. So I can guarantee you that injury is going to occur at some point and especially in the US a not insignificant chance of being shot.

Is it possible to stream from the glasses? If so then a criminal would be deincentivised to murder a witness wearing the glasses - as everything they have seen is already online. Of course it would take a few years of people getting shot by criminals who don't understand the technology before we get to that stage...

Live streaming is possible, yes.

Re: Google Glass to Hit Developers' Hands This Month

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Post by r0s » Thu, Jan 17, 2013, 7:21 AM UTC

jff wrote: post #98

r0s wrote: post #90

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I can't think of a single feature here that wouldn't be better using existing technology on cellphones. Having these things always in your line of vision and no real input options sounds awful.

The input consists of voice commands and a trackpad on the side of the frame. It's not like you can't turn off the screen.

Voice input just isn't ready. Commands, yes. Anything longer than a short sentence and it's unusable.

That means this will forever be a Second device, either separate or connected to your smartphone.

Working speech recognition would be a major revolution, so would useful Augmented Reality, and so would combining them in a lightweight wearable mobile device... but none of these exist. Big jumps in technology don't happen like that, and certainly not all at once at one company.

Re: Google Glass to Hit Developers' Hands This Month

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Post by chrispuds » Thu, Jan 17, 2013, 8:15 AM UTC

darklajid wrote: post #121

Sunlis wrote: post #77

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> Have an alternate reality game with digital objects people can place/write on. Only Glass users can see the teddy bear in the corner, and only google glass users can see the giant graffiti wall where people sign their name. There's a small team at Google working on a game that uses the real world as its map, Ingress[0]. I haven't been able to get access to it yet (typical Google closed beta), but from what I've see…

Have a spare activation code. Drop me a message if you're interested.

Would really appreciate it if you've still got it.

chris.p.freeman@live.co.uk

Re: Google Glass to Hit Developers' Hands This Month

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Post by joezydeco » Thu, Jan 17, 2013, 2:41 PM UTC

duaneb wrote: post #93

Reedx wrote: post #88

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What about when they look just like regular glasses? And more so when they become contacts?

Well, it's democratized cheating, so the playing field is still level. I think people would just adapt. Either that or casinos would change their games. Anyway, you can already do card counting via computer pretty easily at a casino if you think about it--I'm pretty sure they don't care enough to stop you as long as you aren't obvious and you aren't robbing them.

Oh, they care. If they have any suspicion that you're counting they'll just politely ask you to leave. Casinos are private property and they have the right to kick/ban anyone they want for any reason. Call it unfair, whatever.

And read up on the history of the early card counters and their shoe computers. It's a colorful story.