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Re: We should retire Aaron's number

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Aren't all physical memorials, statues, plaques, banners paid for? Just like paying for the upkeeping of a memorial, I see no difference.

Someone just has to keep paying for the domain and hosting and it will remain forever. This is proposing that we never allow these domains to be registered again, even if they expire

If the Internet Archive would support hosting the content/collection, I'd be willing to throw $50-100 into a pool to prepay the domain for the next 10-20 years.

The content can't be over a GB. Hosting that all static in S3 would be, what? ~$0.10/month+transfer costs?

Re: We should retire Aaron's number

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While the idea is novel, domains are virtual real estate. I don't think it's in anyone's best interest to retire domains/addresses. There are many more sane ways to make all of the content easily accessible indefinitely.

Well with "real" real estate, there are properties that we say as a society are too important/notable/what-have-you to allow to simply be bought and sold like chattel. Between war graves, historical monuments, disaster memorials, etc. there are lots of ways we've found to set aside property to commemorate.

Despite the giant asshole I must sound like in the other threads I have really enjoyed the aaronsw writings I've been pointed to in the fallout from all of this, and I think that Winer's proposal could make a fine start to a suitable online memorial for Aaron.

If we can deliver IP over pigeon there has to be a way to at least set aside a DNS entry and coordinate hosting amongst the many who would volunteer for it.

Re: We should retire Aaron's number

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So, if we make a permanent "monument" out of his domain name, what's the deciding factor for or against doing it for any other website?

Will the internet become littered with millions of permanent monuments to misguided souls, like the little crosses on side of our highways?

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So, if we make a permanent "monument" out of his domain name, what's the deciding factor for or against doing it for any other website? Will the internet become littered with millions of permanent monuments to misguided souls, like the little crosses on side of our highways?

Take this sentiment and jump forward 100 years. What's left?

I suspect this will happen to any namespace after long enough. Domain names, Twitter handles, Facebook URLs, whatever. Once enough real estate is taken up with immobile monuments to the dead, the living will have to move on to something else.

I also think this will happen well before 100% utilization. After some point, the number of collisions you hit when trying to get a memorable name becomes too much of a burden and you just go somewhere else, as previously described here: http://rachelbythebay.com/w/2012/11/28/namespace/

Re: We should retire Aaron's number

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I'm surprised there are no virtual cemetaries. A company (a known Internet entity like Archive.org, WikiMedia or W3C would be best, not a startup that will pivot away in 3 years) could offer for a fixed fee to take your blog, freeze it in time, and publish it online forever.

Re: We should retire Aaron's number

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So, if we make a permanent "monument" out of his domain name, what's the deciding factor for or against doing it for any other website? Will the internet become littered with millions of permanent monuments to misguided souls, like the little crosses on side of our highways?

Take this sentiment and jump forward 100 years. What's left? I suspect this will happen to any namespace after long enough. Domain names, Twitter handles, Facebook URLs, whatever. Once enough real estate is taken up with immobile monuments to the dead, the living will have to move on to something else. I also think this will happen well before 100% utilization. After some point, the number of collisions you hit when…

The first number ever retired in all of sports was Lou Gehrig's, in 1939. By the 100th anniversary of that ceremony, the Yankees will have retired about 25-30 numbers. The active roster requires 40+ free numbers < 100. What happens when they run out?

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So, if we make a permanent "monument" out of his domain name, what's the deciding factor for or against doing it for any other website? Will the internet become littered with millions of permanent monuments to misguided souls, like the little crosses on side of our highways?

Take this sentiment and jump forward 100 years. What's left? I suspect this will happen to any namespace after long enough. Domain names, Twitter handles, Facebook URLs, whatever. Once enough real estate is taken up with immobile monuments to the dead, the living will have to move on to something else. I also think this will happen well before 100% utilization. After some point, the number of collisions you hit when…

In 100 years we'll have some other addressing system for whatever mutation of the all-connected-network we have then.

Re: We should retire Aaron's number

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So, if we make a permanent "monument" out of his domain name, what's the deciding factor for or against doing it for any other website? Will the internet become littered with millions of permanent monuments to misguided souls, like the little crosses on side of our highways?

Take this sentiment and jump forward 100 years. What's left? I suspect this will happen to any namespace after long enough. Domain names, Twitter handles, Facebook URLs, whatever. Once enough real estate is taken up with immobile monuments to the dead, the living will have to move on to something else. I also think this will happen well before 100% utilization. After some point, the number of collisions you hit when…

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