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Dear Apple: I give up, WireframeApp will become open source

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Re: Dear Apple: I give up, WireframeApp will become open source

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This was posted a little while back and outlines the process for getting a DUNS number free, within 5 days: http://blog.metamorphium.com/2012/12/03/apple-duns/

I called up D&B and got my companies DUNS number over the phone right then here in New Zealand, apparently they get a feed from the companies office here and just allocate them whenever a new company is incorporated - which happens quite a lot, given how lax our company incorporation rules are.

Re: Dear Apple: I give up, WireframeApp will become open source

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My idea was to release an app every 3-5 months and make at least 60k/year. I cannot sell that much in Brazil as a individual (limit here is 36k BRL). Actually, it took me 8 days to open the company. At the first day I had the CNPJ (EIN in the US), so, in fact, it took me less than 24 hours to be able to accept payments. I don't see the app store as a viable way of making a living anymore (for single developers). I'll…

AFAIK 36k/year is the cut-off for lower taxes, not a hard limit (for independent workers/RPA). You do get much lower taxes by doing business as a company though.

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Re: Dear Apple: I give up, WireframeApp will become open source

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First off, you actually have a limit on how much an individual developer can make? That sounds crazy. Secondly, I don't understand your anger at Apple. They don't control DUNS numbers. It's not their fault that you're having a problem getting one.

Not really, probably the US has a limit of how much you can sell without being a company too.

I don't think so. When people form LLC's it's for liability reasons, not because the government complains if they make too much money under their own name.

Re: Dear Apple: I give up, WireframeApp will become open source

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Was the "GO TO HELL" really necessary? Frustration is understandable, but what do you gain from abusing a customer support person at a large and influential technology company and then vanity posting it to the internet? Let's say the recipient of your "Dear Apple" email decided to forgive and forget; what you've got left is an announcement to the rest of us about your inability to be civil under stress. Temporary rel…

Yeah, I think I went too far.

But believe me, this came to the point where I almost cried of anger. The sentiment of powerlessness is strong.

Re: Dear Apple: I give up, WireframeApp will become open source

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I'm confused - if you opened a company, then there is obviously going to be a lot more paperwork/hoops to jump through than if you did this as an individual. Maybe I'm missing something here - why didn't you just publish the App as an individual?

My idea was to release an app every 3-5 months and make at least 60k/year. I cannot sell that much in Brazil as a individual (limit here is 36k BRL). Actually, it took me 8 days to open the company. At the first day I had the CNPJ (EIN in the US), so, in fact, it took me less than 24 hours to be able to accept payments. I don't see the app store as a viable way of making a living anymore (for single developers). I'll…

I remember reading somewhere about paying $230 to get it done within a couple of days. If that was your plan(60K/year, not to mention the amount of money and time you would need to invest to start a serious company) then whats the problem of paying that relatively little amount of money just to get it out of the way?

If you're planning to build a company, I don't think this will be your biggest problem. Unless, if you're doing this part time, then its even easier, just get an individual account.

Re: Dear Apple: I give up, WireframeApp will become open source

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how long do we need to wait before apple approves an app? I'm about to ship mine. I heard it used to be 2 weeks, isn't it?

I had an update get pushed in 4 days (two Saturdays ago till the Wednesday after), and just submit a new app this Saturday. For those interested, here's a shameless plug: http://subvertapps.com/HN - it's a HN reader with, what I think, is the best UI on the App Store for it. Edit: I should say it's about to come out. Once Apple accepts it. This is more of a sneak-peek.

Already have a HN reader app. My browser.

Re: Dear Apple: I give up, WireframeApp will become open source

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had an update get pushed in 4 days (two Saturdays ago till the Wednesday after), and just submit a new app this Saturday. For those interested, here's a shameless plug: http://subvertapps.com/HN - it's a HN reader with, what I think, is the best UI on the App Store for it. Edit: I should say it's about to come out. Once Apple accepts it. This is more of a sneak-peek.

Already have a HN reader app. My browser.

I assume you take your desktop and monitor on the subway with you too, right?

;)

I made it for me, then decided to hell with it, I'll submit it so others can read stories/comments too.

Re: Dear Apple: I give up, WireframeApp will become open source

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post #3

This was posted a little while back and outlines the process for getting a DUNS number free, within 5 days: http://blog.metamorphium.com/2012/12/03/apple-duns/

I can verify that this process is accurate for US companies. I did the same thing late last year. Make sure you use Apple's form to apply for your DUNS number.

Re: Dear Apple: I give up, WireframeApp will become open source

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post #67
post #61

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First off, you actually have a limit on how much an individual developer can make? That sounds crazy. Secondly, I don't understand your anger at Apple. They don't control DUNS numbers. It's not their fault that you're having a problem getting one.

Elaborating a bit on DUNS: My understanding is that DUNS was not always a requirement for companies publishing on the iOS App Store. It was added about a year and a half ago (?) and given the timing and what DUNS represents it seems reasonable to assume that it was added as a reaction to app spammers and scammers that would run fly by night operations, take people's money and run. DUNS may not have been the best solu…

(5) Apple provides the relatively simple service of looking up incorporation documents.

I can't complain about the speed in getting a DUNS number, since it was quiet fast. Being in Canada, I was surprised how fast they were able to validate my newly created corporation. But I am not sure why we're to believe that D&B have special abilities. Incorporation documents are publicly available.

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