Dear Apple: I give up, WireframeApp will become open source • Hacker News Board

Re: Dear Apple: I give up, WireframeApp will become open source

#51

Post by ghshephard » Wed, Jan 16, 2013, 2:51 AM UTC

eduardordm wrote: post #26

eridius wrote: post #21

Why do you even need a DUNS number? If you're an individual person, just get an individual account and sell it that way. Honestly, this seems a bit like a publicity stunt to me. Everyone loves hating on Apple these days, and if you can tie it to "look at my new opensource project", then BAM, it hits HN front page.

I opened a company specifically for this (ipad/iphone development) it was my plan to leave my current company and build something less stressful. I reached a point where I'm no longer interested in building apps for the app store, apple asks too much and give us too little. I posted on HN because most readers are also programmers and they are exactly whom will fork the project, etc. That said, yep, it can be consider…

I'm confused - if you opened a company, then there is obviously going to be a lot more paperwork/hoops to jump through than if you did this as an individual. Maybe I'm missing something here - why didn't you just publish the App as an individual?

Re: Dear Apple: I give up, WireframeApp will become open source

#52

Post by eduardordm » Wed, Jan 16, 2013, 2:56 AM UTC

ghshephard wrote: post #51

eduardordm wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I opened a company specifically for this (ipad/iphone development) it was my plan to leave my current company and build something less stressful. I reached a point where I'm no longer interested in building apps for the app store, apple asks too much and give us too little. I posted on HN because most readers are also programmers and they are exactly whom will fork the project, etc. That said, yep, it can be consider…

I'm confused - if you opened a company, then there is obviously going to be a lot more paperwork/hoops to jump through than if you did this as an individual. Maybe I'm missing something here - why didn't you just publish the App as an individual?

My idea was to release an app every 3-5 months and make at least 60k/year. I cannot sell that much in Brazil as a individual (limit here is 36k BRL).

Actually, it took me 8 days to open the company. At the first day I had the CNPJ (EIN in the US), so, in fact, it took me less than 24 hours to be able to accept payments.

I don't see the app store as a viable way of making a living anymore (for single developers). I'll try to build something that doesn't depend of other company's mood.

Re: Dear Apple: I give up, WireframeApp will become open source

#53

Post by cageface » Wed, Jan 16, 2013, 2:56 AM UTC

nanijoe wrote: post #36

To be honest, it seems these days like Apple is trying their best to reduce the number of [small] developers that publish to the App Store. I have been selling on the app store for close to 3 years, and in the last 6 months, pretty much every thing that somewhat levels the playing field has been taken away by Apple. The new releases list used to be every apps's chance to be visible for at least 24 - 48 hrs, and if en…

I've said this many times here before but I'll say it again - the way to make money on the app store is to build apps on contract for other people.

If building and selling your own products is your goal then there are other platforms and distribution channels that are much less hostile to the small indie dev.

Re: Dear Apple: I give up, WireframeApp will become open source

#54

Post by CamperBob2 » Wed, Jan 16, 2013, 2:58 AM UTC

vtail wrote: post #32

Why this is even on the front page? Someone who doesn't have patience decides that selling apps for money is not for them. Fine. Entrepreneurship requires a lot of hard work and patience. You need to be resourceful.[1] Big news. 1: http://www.paulgraham.com/relres.html

Yeah, I can hardly wait until he applies for a GSA contract...

Re: Dear Apple: I give up, WireframeApp will become open source

#55

Post by niggler » Wed, Jan 16, 2013, 2:59 AM UTC

I remember Remy Sharp complaining about apple taking too long, resulting in https://github.com/remy/jsconsole-iphone

Re: Dear Apple: I give up, WireframeApp will become open source

#56

Post by ary » Wed, Jan 16, 2013, 3:01 AM UTC

Was the "GO TO HELL" really necessary? Frustration is understandable, but what do you gain from abusing a customer support person at a large and influential technology company and then vanity posting it to the internet?

Let's say the recipient of your "Dear Apple" email decided to forgive and forget; what you've got left is an announcement to the rest of us about your inability to be civil under stress. Temporary relief aside it pays to be polite. Even on the internet.

Re: Dear Apple: I give up, WireframeApp will become open source

#57

Post by ruswick » Wed, Jan 16, 2013, 3:02 AM UTC

vtail wrote: post #32

Why this is even on the front page? Someone who doesn't have patience decides that selling apps for money is not for them. Fine. Entrepreneurship requires a lot of hard work and patience. You need to be resourceful.[1] Big news. 1: http://www.paulgraham.com/relres.html

Evidently, people tend to congregate around posts that bash Apple or decry some flaw with the system around which many people spend their time and money.

It doesn't need to be substantive or revelatory to be on front page; it just needs to be sensational and attractive. It should be no surprise considering the shit that passes for "news" on most blogs and lesser publications.

Re: Dear Apple: I give up, WireframeApp will become open source

#58

Post by nanijoe » Wed, Jan 16, 2013, 3:04 AM UTC

cageface wrote: post #53

nanijoe wrote: post #36

To be honest, it seems these days like Apple is trying their best to reduce the number of [small] developers that publish to the App Store. I have been selling on the app store for close to 3 years, and in the last 6 months, pretty much every thing that somewhat levels the playing field has been taken away by Apple. The new releases list used to be every apps's chance to be visible for at least 24 - 48 hrs, and if en…

I've said this many times here before but I'll say it again - the way to make money on the app store is to build apps on contract for other people. If building and selling your own products is your goal then there are other platforms and distribution channels that are much less hostile to the small indie dev.