Introducing Graph Search • Hacker News Board

Re: Introducing Graph Search

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Post by samstave » Wed, Jan 16, 2013, 1:15 AM UTC

simonsarris wrote: post #53

This is an important step for Facebook and I'm surprised no one has really mentioned it (all ~50 comments so far are about the graph search). The big thing here isn't graph search, or the fancy searching per se. The big thing here is this: > "and meet new people, too." This is huge. Huge! Facebook from the start was envisioned as a sort-of dating platform but that part of it got swept under the rug real quick. Throug…

Dating Schmating.

What a myopic view. Lets take myself, and 90% of the people I know - as real friends. They are all in relationships.

You know what could be "Huge" - creating ad-hoc groups around interests.

Imagine searching for people around you, within a definable degree of separation, that have the same interests where you can do activities.

Meeting people yes - dating does NOT have to be the singular vector for such relationships, that will be a natural secondary. And as a secondary - remains less creepy.

Re: Introducing Graph Search

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Post by paul_f » Wed, Jan 16, 2013, 1:20 AM UTC

minimaxir wrote: post #119

My first Graph Search will be: Find people on Facebook whose first name begins with Robert'); DROP TABLE users;--

Why would you do that to little Bobby Tables? Think of the children, man

Re: Introducing Graph Search

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Post by mturmon » Wed, Jan 16, 2013, 1:26 AM UTC

angryasian wrote: post #218

lesinski wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, that's what's great about Facebook: they probably already know who those 10-50 friends are based on your activity on the site, your location, your photos. They know your best friends based on your actions versus who you might list if they asked you who your best friends are -- which might be a more accurate way of figuring it out anyway.

yeah but out of those 50 you may only want 10 that are knowledgeable about food, and in the greater 500 list you may want 10 that are knowledgeable about tech. Just because you're close to someone doesn't you mean you value their opinion as highly on every subject.

Especially as you get older, and your friendships diversify.

Re: Introducing Graph Search

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Post by zdrtx » Wed, Jan 16, 2013, 1:38 AM UTC

joshstrange wrote: post #116

Am I missing something? The query, at one point, is "People who like Cycling and live in Seattle, Washington" yet the 2nd person "card" clearly states they live in San Francisco, California. Pic: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2148004/Screenshots/~-mm.png

It's just a mistake in the demo video...

Re: Introducing Graph Search

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Post by seldo » Wed, Jan 16, 2013, 2:00 AM UTC

shadowmint wrote: post #219

spindritf wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People don't like being bothered by strangers People love being bothered by strangers. Just try it. Make any half-funny observation about the world around you to a random stranger in the line, at the hairdresser... just not when they're actively doing something. Weather the surprise, repeat what you said if necessary, allow them to come up with a response. If they don't, follow through yourself. At first it seems l…

You know, there's a difference between 'introverts' and 'extraverts'; those people who stand around and feel awkward if no one is saying anything? You know? The ones who want to talk to you in elevators? Or just come and stand next your desk while you're trying to do work and talk? All socionormative, smile and handshake? Maybe you should watch this: http://www.ted.com/talks/susan_cain_the_power_of_introverts.... Her…

I regret that I have but one upvote to give.

Re: Introducing Graph Search

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Post by lefinita » Wed, Jan 16, 2013, 2:44 AM UTC

spindritf wrote: post #170

Irregardless wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is huge. Huge! Quite the opposite, in my opinion. People don't like being bothered by strangers on Facebook. It's weird and creepy, especially so when it's a guy contacting a girl. This could be seen as a disincentive to share if you don't want your face popping up on search results for people outside your immediate network. It also makes friends who are ignorant or careless about privacy more of a liability.…

> People don't like being bothered by strangers People love being bothered by strangers. Just try it. Make any half-funny observation about the world around you to a random stranger in the line, at the hairdresser... just not when they're actively doing something. Weather the surprise, repeat what you said if necessary, allow them to come up with a response. If they don't, follow through yourself. At first it seems l…

For me there is a different between strangers that "found" you directly and strangers that "found" you indirectly, like from graph search. Somehow you can understand more when you meet them directly, although sometime maybe you'll feel unsafe when strangers start "bothering" you.

Re: Introducing Graph Search

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Post by jskonhovd » Wed, Jan 16, 2013, 2:50 AM UTC

This creeps me out more than anything. I already know where I like to hang out and who my friends are... I go to freenode.

Re: Introducing Graph Search

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Post by sidcool » Wed, Jan 16, 2013, 2:56 AM UTC

Whatever the positives or negatives, the tech behind this effort would be super duper cool.

Re: Introducing Graph Search

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Post by sonier » Wed, Jan 16, 2013, 3:17 AM UTC

dgregd wrote: post #143

gfodor wrote: post #120

They're going to have the same problem wolfram alpha has, since in the space of "all queries" only a tiny, tiny fraction of them are going to be ones that Facebook can resolve. Now, it might be less of a practical problem since the use cases for FB search are pretty clear and obvious, unlike W|A. But it doesn't sound like this is an open-ended search engine. Imagine typing say "shoes for sale on amazon" and getting "…

> tiny fraction of them are going to be ones that Facebook can resolve maybe the rest they are going to forward/proxy to Bing.

Interesting, I wonder how many people would start using this as there only search engine.

Re: Introducing Graph Search

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Post by capex » Wed, Jan 16, 2013, 3:51 AM UTC

simonsarris wrote: post #53

This is an important step for Facebook and I'm surprised no one has really mentioned it (all ~50 comments so far are about the graph search). The big thing here isn't graph search, or the fancy searching per se. The big thing here is this: > "and meet new people, too." This is huge. Huge! Facebook from the start was envisioned as a sort-of dating platform but that part of it got swept under the rug real quick. Throug…

Facebook is the place where I share personal things freely because I know its only my family and close friends. I don't let other people get in, and use LinkedIn or Twitter instead. Adding someone on facebook without knowing who the person really is? At least I am not sold.