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Re: Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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2.4.3. rngd Random number generation is improved by enabling rngd by default. violent twitching The /dev/random situation on Linux is beyond laughable, and everyone who thinks the "solution" for a kernel problem is MOAR USRLAND DEEMONZ!!!!@$^#$# should drown themselves in the nearest toilet immediately.

Could you elaborate on this, or share a link or two?

Re: Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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post #50

2.4.3. rngd Random number generation is improved by enabling rngd by default. violent twitching The /dev/random situation on Linux is beyond laughable, and everyone who thinks the "solution" for a kernel problem is MOAR USRLAND DEEMONZ!!!!@$^#$# should drown themselves in the nearest toilet immediately.

Could you elaborate on this, or share a link or two?

This is several years old now, but it is an overview of a (failed) attempt to replace Linux's existing random implementation with Fortuna, an improved variant of the Yarrow algorithm used by FreeBSD, and a comparison with Linux's existing random implementation.

http://jlcooke.ca/random/

This is a thread on LKML about adding support to Linux's random implementation for Intel's RdRand instruction. You have to read all the way through to see the extent of the insanity. ("We can't trust Intel because NSA backdoor government spying chemtrails HAARP fluoride wharrgarbl!")

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1173350

I can't find the LKML thread to link to it, but earlier this year, there was a hullabaloo over a paper published at https://factorable.net/ regarding network-connected devices generating weak keys because of "insufficient randomness" at boot time. This led to a reworking of how/when/why entropy is fed into Linux's entropy pool.

Re: Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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The firewall daemon firewalld will be the default firewall solution for Fedora 18, replacing iptables. Using firewalld will allow for application of policy changes without reloading, allowing connection states to stay unbroken when rules are changed. UEFI Secure Boot will be supported in Fedora 18. This will allow Fedora to boot on systems that have Secure Boot enabled. Tools are available for administrators to creat…

Thanks for that. God I hope firewalld has more intuitive config than iptables.

I rather like iptables...I have to check the man page whenever I use it, but I'm always able to do what I want pretty quickly.

Re: Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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If there were a rolling release Fedora, I'd be all over that as a drop-in alternative to Ubuntu for friends and family. * Systemd > Upstart in performance usability (for me, at least). * selinux > apparmor when properly integrated (personal preference, but it sees more active development and feature parity). * RPMs and debs are basically the same thing except not. I have to say adding repos in Ubuntu is much easier t…

I can't be the only one that would prefer selinux were fired into the sun.

Re: Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The firewall daemon firewalld will be the default firewall solution for Fedora 18, replacing iptables. Using firewalld will allow for application of policy changes without reloading, allowing connection states to stay unbroken when rules are changed. UEFI Secure Boot will be supported in Fedora 18. This will allow Fedora to boot on systems that have Secure Boot enabled. Tools are available for administrators to creat…

> The X.org server has been rewritten to support 'hot' plugging and unplugging of GPUs. Specifically, this allows Fedora to provide better support for USB connected graphics devices exposed by many modern systems and laptop docking stations. The user is no longer required to restart the X.org server for such devices to be recognised. Does anybody know if this means good things about the state of those nvidia/intel hy…

I think what you need for that is Bumblebee: http://bumblebee-project.org/

Re: Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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Anyone want to create highlights for those of us with a short attention span?

The firewall daemon firewalld will be the default firewall solution for Fedora 18, replacing iptables. Using firewalld will allow for application of policy changes without reloading, allowing connection states to stay unbroken when rules are changed. UEFI Secure Boot will be supported in Fedora 18. This will allow Fedora to boot on systems that have Secure Boot enabled. Tools are available for administrators to creat…

nit: firewalld does not replace iptables, it replaces system-config-firewall, a GUI, TUI, and startup script generator around iptables.

iptables is still the underlying tech, we now just have a much better way to manage it.

Re: Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you elaborate on this, or share a link or two?

This is several years old now, but it is an overview of a (failed) attempt to replace Linux's existing random implementation with Fortuna, an improved variant of the Yarrow algorithm used by FreeBSD, and a comparison with Linux's existing random implementation. http://jlcooke.ca/random/ This is a thread on LKML about adding support to Linux's random implementation for Intel's RdRand instruction. You have to read all…

How is it unreasonable for open-source OS developers to be concerned about closed-source blobs in cryptographic components?

Re: Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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post #58
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is several years old now, but it is an overview of a (failed) attempt to replace Linux's existing random implementation with Fortuna, an improved variant of the Yarrow algorithm used by FreeBSD, and a comparison with Linux's existing random implementation. http://jlcooke.ca/random/ This is a thread on LKML about adding support to Linux's random implementation for Intel's RdRand instruction. You have to read all…

How is it unreasonable for open-source OS developers to be concerned about closed-source blobs in cryptographic components?

The entire CPU is "closed source." If you can't trust the CPU, then it's game over for everything you're doing on the CPU.

Re: Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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Hopefully Gnome 3.6 will be a bit more mature and address some of the concerns people have with it, although MATE is now a first-class package in the Fedora repository for those who can't stand Gnome 3. Looking at the feature list, there are relatively few blockbuster features, but I'd be interested to know how useful people think the Active Directory support is, relative to support in other Linux distros (or OSX for…

Fedora 18 includes Cinnamon: http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/ I think it is a very good option if you don't like Gnome 3 but want to benefit from all the new stuff (ie. GTK+ 3) with a more traditional desktop interface.

What do you mean by includes? It's the default interface, or it's accessible in the repos? Looks really nice and I'm thinking of upgrading from FC17.
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