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Proposition HN: I will pay $8000 for you to build your side-project/MVP

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Re: Proposition HN: I will pay $8000 for you to build your side-project/MVP

#381

Let's walk through hmexx's premises. Premise 1, that investors overestimate their ability to pick good ideas is undoubtedly true. The best investors are still usually wrong. But the consistent returns that the Sequoias of the world suggest that even if they're usually wrong, they're right enough to make oodles of money. Premise 2, that an MVP built by a lone founder is just as likely to succeed as a full team on Ange…

Problem is, no one believes you.

Re: Proposition HN: I will pay $8000 for you to build your side-project/MVP

#382

If this was answered, I can't find it. - At $5k / 50%, who is covering the costs of creating a separate entity (LLC formation)? - What happens in the event that the project is completed in time, but the addl $3k spent to acquire enough customers doesn't yield any positive results? - Who owns the IP in case after all is said and done, it falls into a dead pool? IP in code that didn't survive as a startup is still valu…

Worry about that crap when you have something to worry about.

Re: Proposition HN: I will pay $8000 for you to build your side-project/MVP

#383
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My concern with the approach is that it doesn't seem very lean. An idea that a developer has kicking around isn't necessarily one that has a market. I'd suggest getting involved early on the product development side and getting out and talking to customers. Articulated market needs are much more valuable than just an idea... Nathan Barry had a nice post on HN the other day having to do with this: http://nathanbarry.c…

Anyone can come up with an idea. Lots of people can build a product for a wage. Finding someone who will develop their own idea is what's valuable. The question is whether people who can deliver technically want a partner who can deliver marketing and are willing to take the risk finding them.

Re: Proposition HN: I will pay $8000 for you to build your side-project/MVP

#384

I'm interested, but I have an important question: Are you an accredited investor? Must you be, for this plan to work?

Accredited by the American Dental Association or the Fidelity Investments sales intern training program?

Re: Proposition HN: I will pay $8000 for you to build your side-project/MVP

#385
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Can't edit the main article anymore, but here's a rally-point for future updates: http://hnproposition.blogspot.co.uk/ Been emailed to everyone who contacted me. Hopefully has not hit too many spam boxes.

I never saw the email.

Re: Proposition HN: I will pay $8000 for you to build your side-project/MVP

#387

Any room for a designer in this proposal? If a talented programmer has a great idea, and is able to make it functional, thats great. However, as a designer I'm interested in how these projects will turn out visually.

I'll take a design partner. Your idea or mine. $5000. I don't have any marketing chops though.

Re: Proposition HN: I will pay $8000 for you to build your side-project/MVP

#388

Let's walk through hmexx's premises. Premise 1, that investors overestimate their ability to pick good ideas is undoubtedly true. The best investors are still usually wrong. But the consistent returns that the Sequoias of the world suggest that even if they're usually wrong, they're right enough to make oodles of money. Premise 2, that an MVP built by a lone founder is just as likely to succeed as a full team on Ange…

Problem is, no one believes you.

My investing bona fides: https://angel.co/chrisyeh

Re: Proposition HN: I will pay $8000 for you to build your side-project/MVP

#389

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Again, you're seeing this dangerously wrong. This isn't an employment opportunity, this is a startup where one of the founders is using an interesting way to find a co-founder and the idea itself. You bring the idea, he brings the cash. He's not giving you a job, he's playing the role of seed investor and co-founder.

Okay. I guess we can agree to disagree, although I think at this point we're arguing semantics.

No, we're not arguing semantics. You're saying he should just be getting a salary and the OP is an incredibly generous person for also offering him half of his own idea. I'm saying that's nonsense. It could be a good deal if you have no other options but 50% is huge.

Re: Proposition HN: I will pay $8000 for you to build your side-project/MVP

#390

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The precedent of a questionable value proposition by an anonymous member raises the question, are caveat emptor funding offers beneficial to the HN community? Logical assumptions lead to a plausible candidate - but that's not identity.

This may or may not be a good idea, but it is certainly a novel approach. My best guess is that the precedent isn't too big a concern because few would be willing to put up cash for such an attempt and the # of MVPs worth buying is low.

The initial offer could be finessed/streamlined/de-risked further with the investor offering to pay the 5k to an individual on the conditions that they are (a)customer No1 for the product and (b)a member of a community where they can (prior to receiving cash) or have (proof required) identified a demand for the product/idea among their peers. This lends from the theory of the deep and narrow well / 1000 true fans methodology for customer discovery/early adopter critical mass.
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