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Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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Re: Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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Post by saljam »

limmeau wrote: post #15
saljam wrote: post #14

Why don't distributions provide an image that can be dd'd onto a USB stick? I'm sure I'm not the only one who finds USB mass storage infinitely more convenient than CDs nowadays. Sure, they provide a USB image creator, but you have to have a fairly standard (and graphical, last time I checked) Linux installation first. And sure, you can extract the files and make one yourself, but is that really necessary? This goes…

Can't you just dd the ISO image to the USB stick? http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/18/html/Installat...

OK, I stand corrected! I should've done my homework...

Re: Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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Post by elehack »

saljam wrote: post #14

Why don't distributions provide an image that can be dd'd onto a USB stick? I'm sure I'm not the only one who finds USB mass storage infinitely more convenient than CDs nowadays. Sure, they provide a USB image creator, but you have to have a fairly standard (and graphical, last time I checked) Linux installation first. And sure, you can extract the files and make one yourself, but is that really necessary? This goes…

I've successfully installed the last two Fedora versions by DD'ing the ISO to a USB stick.

Pre-F18, it was worthless to do this for anything but the net install image, as Anaconda wouldn't locate packages on the USB stick. I don't know if the F18 Anaconda fixed this or not, as I used the net install image.

Re: Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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Post by elehack »

zanny wrote: post #11

If there were a rolling release Fedora, I'd be all over that as a drop-in alternative to Ubuntu for friends and family. * Systemd > Upstart in performance usability (for me, at least). * selinux > apparmor when properly integrated (personal preference, but it sees more active development and feature parity). * RPMs and debs are basically the same thing except not. I have to say adding repos in Ubuntu is much easier t…

Arch? Don't know if they support SELinux, but they use SystemD and are rolling-release.

For me, the 6-month release cycle is a major reason why I am using Fedora rather than Arch. With a rolling release, I am constantly distracted by monitoring what is new; 6-month releases allow me to batch my curiosity into 1-2 days of heightened but less prolonged distraction.

Re: Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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Post by elehack »

rjknight wrote: post #19
JamesMcMinn wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gnome 3.6 is better in a lot of ways, but worse in about as many more. I do wish they'd stop removing features just to make the UI simple (not even necessarily better, or easier to use, just simple).

What are the particularly bad bits? Gnome 3.4 feels OK to me - it happens to be a good fit for the "large number of low-resolution monitors" setup I'm currently enduring, as each monitor can have a separate full-screen app, which seems to be how Gnome wants you to do things. That said, I'm going to be trying Cinnamon shortly.

One thing: Gnome 3.6 is moving farther towards making use of the application menu. Good in general - it was stupid in 3.0 - but it plays very poorly with focus-follows-mouse.

Re: Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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Post by alanctgardner2 »

arethuza wrote: post #5
jvc26 wrote: post #3

Spherical Cow? Well that's a new one!

It's a very old joke: http://www.physics.csbsju.edu/stats/WAPP2_cow.html

When I heard it the punchline was "Assume a spherical cow which isotropically radiates milk", which was pretty awesome.

Re: Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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Post by moystard »

rjknight wrote: post #2

Hopefully Gnome 3.6 will be a bit more mature and address some of the concerns people have with it, although MATE is now a first-class package in the Fedora repository for those who can't stand Gnome 3. Looking at the feature list, there are relatively few blockbuster features, but I'd be interested to know how useful people think the Active Directory support is, relative to support in other Linux distros (or OSX for…

Fedora announces a support of Exchange for Gnome 3.6, sounds interesting.

Would be curious to hear some feedback from people who tried. The support of Exchange in Linux has always been wobbly.. Davmail has been the best way to do so until now.

Re: Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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Post by RyanZAG »

jpdoctor wrote: post #29
ch0wn wrote: post #6

Here are the release notes: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/18/html/Release_N...

Anyone want to create highlights for those of us with a short attention span?

The firewall daemon firewalld will be the default firewall solution for Fedora 18, replacing iptables. Using firewalld will allow for application of policy changes without reloading, allowing connection states to stay unbroken when rules are changed.

UEFI Secure Boot will be supported in Fedora 18. This will allow Fedora to boot on systems that have Secure Boot enabled. Tools are available for administrators to create custom certificates to sign local changes to GRUB or the kernel.

Fedora 18 adds FedFS, a mechanism to provide a coherent namespace across multiple file servers.

Fedora 18 includes Samba4, which provides improved cross-platform file server support.

The X.org server has been rewritten to support 'hot' plugging and unplugging of GPUs. Specifically, this allows Fedora to provide better support for USB connected graphics devices exposed by many modern systems and laptop docking stations. The user is no longer required to restart the X.org server for such devices to be recognised.

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