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Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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Re: Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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Post by zanny »

If there were a rolling release Fedora, I'd be all over that as a drop-in alternative to Ubuntu for friends and family.

* Systemd > Upstart in performance usability (for me, at least).

* selinux > apparmor when properly integrated (personal preference, but it sees more active development and feature parity).

* RPMs and debs are basically the same thing except not. I have to say adding repos in Ubuntu is much easier than in Fedora.

The choice of GUI during installation is also nice. I just can't keep putting relations and friends on distros that break on really major updates (like 10.04 to 12.04 for Ubuntu) and that is one of the reasons I run Arch. Problem is Arch has really bad support for MAC and takes forever to set up.

Re: Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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Post by saljam »

Why don't distributions provide an image that can be dd'd onto a USB stick? I'm sure I'm not the only one who finds USB mass storage infinitely more convenient than CDs nowadays. Sure, they provide a USB image creator, but you have to have a fairly standard (and graphical, last time I checked) Linux installation first. And sure, you can extract the files and make one yourself, but is that really necessary?

This goes for both Ubuntu and Fedora.

Re: Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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Post by limmeau »

saljam wrote: post #14

Why don't distributions provide an image that can be dd'd onto a USB stick? I'm sure I'm not the only one who finds USB mass storage infinitely more convenient than CDs nowadays. Sure, they provide a USB image creator, but you have to have a fairly standard (and graphical, last time I checked) Linux installation first. And sure, you can extract the files and make one yourself, but is that really necessary? This goes…

Can't you just dd the ISO image to the USB stick?

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/18/html/Installat...

Re: Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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Post by reidrac »

saljam wrote: post #14

Why don't distributions provide an image that can be dd'd onto a USB stick? I'm sure I'm not the only one who finds USB mass storage infinitely more convenient than CDs nowadays. Sure, they provide a USB image creator, but you have to have a fairly standard (and graphical, last time I checked) Linux installation first. And sure, you can extract the files and make one yourself, but is that really necessary? This goes…

I think you can just dd the CD ISO into the USB. That's what I do, and it's supported:

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/18/html/Installat...

I'm sure you can find the same info for Ubuntu.

Re: Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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Post by cowsaysoink »

saljam wrote: post #14

Why don't distributions provide an image that can be dd'd onto a USB stick? I'm sure I'm not the only one who finds USB mass storage infinitely more convenient than CDs nowadays. Sure, they provide a USB image creator, but you have to have a fairly standard (and graphical, last time I checked) Linux installation first. And sure, you can extract the files and make one yourself, but is that really necessary? This goes…

Ubuntu iso's can be dd'd onto a usb stick as well as fedora.

Re: Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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Post by rjknight »

JamesMcMinn wrote: post #10
rjknight wrote: post #2

Hopefully Gnome 3.6 will be a bit more mature and address some of the concerns people have with it, although MATE is now a first-class package in the Fedora repository for those who can't stand Gnome 3. Looking at the feature list, there are relatively few blockbuster features, but I'd be interested to know how useful people think the Active Directory support is, relative to support in other Linux distros (or OSX for…

Gnome 3.6 is better in a lot of ways, but worse in about as many more. I do wish they'd stop removing features just to make the UI simple (not even necessarily better, or easier to use, just simple).

What are the particularly bad bits?

Gnome 3.4 feels OK to me - it happens to be a good fit for the "large number of low-resolution monitors" setup I'm currently enduring, as each monitor can have a separate full-screen app, which seems to be how Gnome wants you to do things. That said, I'm going to be trying Cinnamon shortly.

Re: Fedora 18 "Spherical Cow" released

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Post by AndreasFrom »

ch0wn wrote: post #6

Here are the release notes: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/18/html/Release_N...

And here's the release announcement: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F18_release_announcement

> Heck, we'd even say that getting this release to you has been a mooving experience.

Heh.

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