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Y Combinator is funding the future of spam in Windows

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Re: Y Combinator is funding the future of spam in Windows

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PG: care to comment? Were you involved in this investment decision?

One thing to keep in mind is that YC funds groups. If a team is funded to do one thing, then pivots to doing something else later, it's not like YC is going to de-fund you. (I don't know anything about this specific company)

Re: Y Combinator is funding the future of spam in Windows

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post #43

Wow....I thought these kind of companies stay and operate from the darkest corners of the internet, just like those CPA networks where you get paid to SPAM the hell out of the internet. Frustrating that these are coming mainstream and Y Combinator has backed one of them.

Actually you would be surprised. The biggest advertiser in the CPA industry over the last few years closed their doors a couple of months ago. And now the EPC (earning's per click) are about 20% of what they used to be, so the majority of CPA networks are either going broke or shutting down for good. I imagine that the majority of them will be closing their doors this year as well which is kind of sad.

As of now, not 1 of my friends promoting CPA offers is making money, they've either got themselves a 9-5 or just chewing through their savings.

Re: Y Combinator is funding the future of spam in Windows

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post #40
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ninite is great and has saved me time in the past. What exactly does this have to do with the article? Are you implying that since Y Combinator funded non-junk applications that it's okay to now fund junk applications?

I think he was saying it was kind of a humorous contrast with YC essentially funding companies that compete in a way. The nerdy conclusion of this discussion would lead to a battle of the two platforms, one trying to install spam-ware and the other trying to prevent it...

"Constructive" =) http://xkcd.com/810/

Re: Y Combinator is funding the future of spam in Windows

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post #84

> Although the company claims it is all “non-personally identifiable data”, according to its website this surprisingly includes not only IP but the globally unique MAC addresses. Enough with the scare tactics. A Mac adress is not, in any way, globally unique.

Excuse me. As a rule, a MAC address is a decent approximation of globally unique, certainly good enough to identify a single computer for advertising purposes. If you have a MAC address and it's not globally unique, it's defective and out of spec. Which isn't to say duplicates never happen (ultra-cheap rip-off network cards, virtual machines, reprogramming your hardware manually, etc), but... there's a reason they go through the rigamarole of partitioning out different OUI blocks to different network equipment vendors.

Re: Y Combinator is funding the future of spam in Windows

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"A few days ago I wanted to install the Partition Magic trial on my Win XP VM" Windows XP is more than a decade old. The latest release, nearly five. To generalize about the current state of Windows based upon recent experience with Windows XP is either ignorant, disingenuous, or blindly biased.

I doubt the installer/websites would have behaved much different if I have had used Windows 7 or 8.

Your doubt is unfounded.

http://www.symantec.com/connect/forums/partition-magic-windo...

Your research, poor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PartitionMagic

And your characterization of the Windows ecosystem based upon your experience either ignorant, disingenuous, or blindly biased.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/apps

Re: Y Combinator is funding the future of spam in Windows

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post #101

PG: care to comment? Were you involved in this investment decision?

One thing to keep in mind is that YC funds groups. If a team is funded to do one thing, then pivots to doing something else later, it's not like YC is going to de-fund you. (I don't know anything about this specific company)

Surely that can be abused? What could this group have possibly pivoted from? http://www.installmonetizer.com/AT_aboutus.php

Plus there are photos of them at YC with their company logo above - they clearly did not pivot.

Re: Y Combinator is funding the future of spam in Windows

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When beginning working on our current startup, we decided to switch from Windows to Linux to make development easier. I was planning to keep a partition with Windows but I soon found out how being on Linux I didn't have to worry about shit like this anymore. Needless to say I don't use Windows anymore.

Re: Y Combinator is funding the future of spam in Windows

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Winzip and Nero use the Ask Partner Network Sadly, on Windows even Oracle's Java has the ASK toolbar. Almost nobody has any pride left on the Windows-platform, user-abuse is rampant, almost expected. It's killing the platform and there's nothing Microsoft can do about it.

I don't know why they don't open their store to desktop apps. Maybe they have an agreement somewhere which hinders that action.

There are links to desktop applications in store, so probably reason is not legal. Most likely it's because they want to move desktop applications to new APIs which are not ready yet.

Re: Y Combinator is funding the future of spam in Windows

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post #16

Y Combinator also funded our solution to crapware. http://ninite.com Basically we automate multiple installers and decline toolbars just like you would. Users range from the nontechnical to NASA. We even have a huge blind user base because these installers are frequently hell to navigate with a screenreader. We make money selling a Pro version with extra features to businesses and school IT departments. It works well…

Just wanted to add my thanks for a great product. We are a pro license holder where I work, I believe. Not sure if this was your point, but I assume that you are using a lot of MSI and Windows API hooks, in which case this is a great example of the flexibility and integration options of Windows being leveraged for the good, as opposed to the crapware blight, which must be as frustrating for Microsoft as it is for us.

Good point. The relative openness of win32 allows junkware but gives us enough slack to fight it too.

It does make for a noisier and more confusing ecosystem though. My mom's still better off using an iPad.

Thanks for using Ninite Pro!

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