I'm sure there are people who have never watched porn that don't particularly enjoy sex either. This sounds like all other articles that generalize one anecdote to data.
Did porn warp me forever?
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Re: Did porn warp me forever?
#222I know this is outing myself but this is my personal experience. I won't post anonymously in case anyone wants to contact me. I came to the realization about 2 years that I am addicted to porn. For anyone out there struggling with the same thing, it can get better and yes, it is probably having a negative influence on your life. Previously I would look about once per week but in the past 6 months, I have probably vie…
> Each time you view something new, your brain gives a hit of dopamine. Oh dear god. That is not how dopamine works. Dopamine is a chemical that your brain secretes when you are trying to get something, not once you get it - so when you're hungry, for example, you'll have higher dopamine levels. Then when you eat, they go back down. The actual sensation of higher dopamine levels is stress and anxiousness - it actuall…
From the guidelines for this forum:
"That is an idiotic thing to say; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3."
Re: Did porn warp me forever?
#223I wish you would all read this brilliant speech by Andrea Dworkin. Try to keep an open mind for a seed of truth, even if you come from a very different place politically. http://www.nostatusquo.com/ACLU/dworkin/WarZoneChaptIIIE.htm... ". . . if equality is what you want and what you care about, then you have to fight for the institutions that will make it socially real. It is not just a matter of your attitude. You c…
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#224Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Each time you view something new, your brain gives a hit of dopamine. Oh dear god. That is not how dopamine works. Dopamine is a chemical that your brain secretes when you are trying to get something, not once you get it - so when you're hungry, for example, you'll have higher dopamine levels. Then when you eat, they go back down. The actual sensation of higher dopamine levels is stress and anxiousness - it actuall…
"The actual sensation of higher dopamine levels is stress and anxiousness - it actually doesn't feel good at all." Hmm, maybe that explains why whenever I get this rush of anticipation whenever I think about playing Starcraft, but when I actually play it I just end up stressed and anxious.
The rush of fiero when you kick ass, or the amazement when you lose, washes over this at the end and gives you an emotional exclamation point to remember for the next time you think about playing: you're anticipating the end of the game.
Re: Did porn warp me forever?
#225I have tried to quit porn before. In high school I tried very hard, for religious reasons. I never succeeded. In college I got to the point where 2 30-90 minute sessions daily was the norm. I then tried to quit again. I went 5 days, and then 4 days, and then gave up on the idea, resigning myself to immense sexual activity. Every month or so, I'll go on a complete rampage with as many as 10 orgasms a day for 2-3 days,…
Instead of stopping cold, rate limit yourself. You already have a solid baseline of your current frequency. Pick something a bit less and don't go over that for a week. Figure out some strategies for coping; I'd suggest going for long walks to public places. Note that you've achieved that milestone and step it down another notch the next week.
You don't have to go all the way to zero unless you want to, either. Demonstrating to yourself that you've got a measure of control is important.
Re: Did porn warp me forever?
#226Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I am addicted to porn. ... I would look about once per week... I don't understand: this seems incongruous. Watching pornography once a week doesn't come across as an uncontrolled, impulse behaviour. How does one suffer from an addiction and satisfy it but once a week? Do forgive me if I come across as doubting your word. That is not my intention in the least.
He said he enjoyed it a lot when he did it, therefore it's an addiction. This is America: if you like something, it's probably bad for you. (Less sarcastically: I remember reading that addicts don't enjoy their addiction anymore; they do it because they have to keep doing it. Kind of like me and "someone is wrong on the Internet".)
hmmmm no. It is an addiction if you cannot do WITHOUT it and you cannot stop doing/taking it; and you feel terrible one way or the other without it and the only release is having/taking it. And when you start typical toxic behaviors like making excuses "one last time" and the likes.
Just because you enjoy something a lot doesn't make it an addiction. From all mattm said, he probably isn't addicted but put the label "addiction" on some other thing he is suffering from.
Re: Did porn warp me forever?
#227I have tried to quit porn before. In high school I tried very hard, for religious reasons. I never succeeded. In college I got to the point where 2 30-90 minute sessions daily was the norm. I then tried to quit again. I went 5 days, and then 4 days, and then gave up on the idea, resigning myself to immense sexual activity. Every month or so, I'll go on a complete rampage with as many as 10 orgasms a day for 2-3 days,…
I don't understand why sex has become this generation's absolute number 1 priority, the one thing everyone defines themselves almost religiously through and reads way too much into. Everyone has seen "group action" and gets off on borderline cartoon rape and, to quote SouthPark, Japanese girls vomiting on each other... at the same time people are so alienated from each other they can barely look at others in a pub or start talking to people, so then they flock to "pickup artists" and countless self-help books teaching them yet more ways of "getting into someone else's pants" and then all they are left with is the urgent, defining feeling of having to "perform" and live up to an allegedly commonly-agreed-upon standard - instead of valuing actual human interaction and truly accepting one self and others and feeling welcome and whole in another person's presence.
Re: Did porn warp me forever?
#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
He said he enjoyed it a lot when he did it, therefore it's an addiction. This is America: if you like something, it's probably bad for you. (Less sarcastically: I remember reading that addicts don't enjoy their addiction anymore; they do it because they have to keep doing it. Kind of like me and "someone is wrong on the Internet".)
> He said he enjoyed it a lot when he did it, therefore it's an addiction. hmmmm no. It is an addiction if you cannot do WITHOUT it and you cannot stop doing/taking it; and you feel terrible one way or the other without it and the only release is having/taking it. And when you start typical toxic behaviors like making excuses "one last time" and the likes. Just because you enjoy something a lot doesn't make it an add…
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#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most of what you're saying about AA is false. 4 of the 12 steps mention God. And if you look deeper into the material, God is in reference to a Higher Power or "Power greater than ourselves." Some examples of a Higher Power can include: a sponsor, the group in general, a (big G or little g) god, a door knob. The principle is about believing in something greater than yourself. edit: AA has its roots in Christianity, h…
I went to AA meetings for a while with someone whose mother was an alcoholic (I don't really remember what this was supposed to accomplish, but...) and the atmosphere was kinda weird... the people there, at least, really did invoke god/jesus/etc a lot, and there was a funny sense they were looking for something to replace the alcohol, and jesus (etc) was a popular candidate... and there was a palpable sense of peer p…
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#230Earlier quoted context omitted.
They were also clearly incorrect . No matter how hard their struggle is, it's akin to linking vaccines to autism - no amount of personal pain overrides factual inaccuracy . It's an extremely important part of public discourse that incorrectness be called out, in a polite way, but clearly and forcefully. This is akin to 'balancing' a debate about evolution by having an evolutionary biologist there and a doctor of theo…
They were incorrect on a side detail "shot of dopamine equals pleasure". That is not the main crux of the comment and latching onto that side detail and throwing "Fuck this and fuck that" around is is insulting the person and doesn't add anything to the discussion. Even after the original author politely answered and noticed the correction the insults continued with "this is not acceptable" . > Just because there is…
> They were incorrect on a side detail (...)
Doesn't cover it at all. OP gives a mechanistic account of how the construct of "porn addiction" works and how it affects people; there isn't much to his post other than that. His mechanistic account happens to be incorrect, or at the very least sufficiently misguided to be worthless, and people call him out on that.