I couldn't finish the article because I found the examples too disturbing. Just a warning for those of you who aren't very familiar with online porn. Could someone give me a summary of the article?
Did porn warp me forever?
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#22I couldn't finish the article because I found the examples too disturbing. Just a warning for those of you who aren't very familiar with online porn. Could someone give me a summary of the article?
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#24Do we care? The next thing he will suggest: let's censor, let's break the web, let's put people in the jail, let's force parents to spy on their children, let's take parenting rights from ones who don't. Let's create a police state because he doesn't like porn. His problems with porn is just his problems. I suggest dealing with it.
So you got to the end of the article that suggested none of these things and said to yourself "well he didn't say it but I bet he was thinking it"?
I'm about 5 years older than the article poster. I haven't had unfiltered Internet since way before puberty, but I knew where my dad kept the tapes and magazines and I've had the Internet connection by the time I was 15-16. Either I was too young to care or old enough to know where to find it.
I don't think my parents would have added anything to either of our lives by filtering the Internet connection. They spent enough time trying to push me away from computers, which in hindsight I think they'd admit was folly since it was this "addiction" which I used to dig myself out of a childhood of poverty.
Anyway part of that time was used looking at porn, more of it on on-line games and a bit of it learning interesting things. Other than turning into a geek, I don't really think I'm messed up in any special way.
We now have two data points running contrary from each other. I see no significant evidence to suggest porn is really the problem it's make it out to be.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's what actually gets proposed (and sometimes even passed) as laws each time.
Aren't you just projecting your own fear here? We can deal with it as comes up.
(Because dealing with fear without treating harmful things being feared seems pointless)
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#26Actually their specific mission is to avoid masturbation. I don't think there is anything wrong with masturbation. In fact sometimes, particularly as a male, it helps to improve your focus if you release occasionally. For someone who isn't in a relationship or a position to have sex on a fairly regular basis (read: me, living in a basement, working every waking hour on a combination of vitamins and adderall) it helps every few days. Some argue, and to an extent I agree, that it also helps to avoid it. Your body builds more testosterone during a period of abstinence. Apparently only up until about 7 days, where that begins to trail off. Billy Corgan of the Smashing Pumpkins won't let his band mates have sex before a show, so they let out their energy on stage.
That being said, porn definitely fucks with your head. Just stay away from it. I've never been one of these guys who watches it more and more and more and more. I can't even imagine being desensitized to sex or imagining porn during sex. That's a serious problem. Anyway, the nofap guys talk about this stuff a lot so I'd encourage anyone interested in this to head over there as there are lots of other interesting resources that point out why porn is bad and how it fucks with your brain. In the end it's purely chemical, where you become accustomed to the dopamine response that you receive from watching porn, so you need more and more and more. Like any other addiction or dependence. At some point what you have is not enough and you need more.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
While I agree entirely with you, another point the author of the article is making is that his problems may be typical in kids growing up with the world wide web at their fingertips. That perspective brings us to a different question: What can we do to ensure safe and positive sexual development in children without censoring the web and imposing our generation's morals on the next?
> While I agree entirely with you, another point the author of the article is making is that his problems may be typical in kids growing up with the world wide web at their fingertips. what the web has to do with it? as a teenager I could buy hardcore porn magazines without any problems.
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#28Do we care? The next thing he will suggest: let's censor, let's break the web, let's put people in the jail, let's force parents to spy on their children, let's take parenting rights from ones who don't. Let's create a police state because he doesn't like porn. His problems with porn is just his problems. I suggest dealing with it.
I find it hard to imagine how such a comment could be written having read the article. The whole point of the article was that it was not "just his problem", and beyond missing that point, the poster responds to a straw man not even hinted at in the article. His inability to "deal with it" was the purpose of the article!
I experimented with porn growing up, and certainly saw somethings I wish I hadn't, but I have never had trouble getting it up for a real girl either.
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#29Does it make sense to teach this to children? Just like "Smoking isn't good for your health."(which I believe worked for me) you could teach "Porn isn't good for you, if you want to enjoy sex."
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
While I agree entirely with you, another point the author of the article is making is that his problems may be typical in kids growing up with the world wide web at their fingertips. That perspective brings us to a different question: What can we do to ensure safe and positive sexual development in children without censoring the web and imposing our generation's morals on the next?
> While I agree entirely with you, another point the author of the article is making is that his problems may be typical in kids growing up with the world wide web at their fingertips. what the web has to do with it? as a teenager I could buy hardcore porn magazines without any problems.
Are you really making this argument on HN of all places? That behaviour doesn't have the ability to fluctuate wildly with only small differences in friction (not a pun!)?