Earlier quoted context omitted.
Presumably the protest is intended to help ensure that his death does make a difference.
By difference I of course mean Aaron not having killed himself.
1/13 noon at MIT: Protest wrongful prosecution of Aaron Swartz
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Re: 1/13 noon at MIT: Protest wrongful prosecution of Aaron Swartz
#72As an MIT undergraduate, I will be there
Have you considered disenrolling? Based on what has come out that this entire case has been pushed by MIT officials and JSTOR was opposed to it, affiliation with MIT right now, even as a student, looks to me like affiliation with the Nazi youth. Financial support of MIT through tuition looks like support of what is a terrorist organization.
Re: 1/13 noon at MIT: Protest wrongful prosecution of Aaron Swartz
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
> affiliation with MIT right now, even as a student, looks to me like affiliation with the Nazi youth Take a break. Hyperbole and strange exaggerations won't solve anything.
There is no hyperbole here. People who voluntarily affiliated with the Nazis suffered a permanent black mark on their reputations, even when they were not aware of what was going on at the time. Those who, after the extent of their evil actions were known, continued to choose to be affiliated with them, were considered exceptionally vile. Those retaining voluntary affiliation with MIT after these events are vile. I c…
That's revisionist history. Those people who voluntarily affiliated with Nazis were generally forgiven unless they benefited from the affiliation in ways beyond mere survival. The Nazis had a nasty tendecy to kill those who opposed them, so "affiliating" and even "accomodating" with Nazis was a valid survival technique so long as affiliation or accomodation did not turn into mutual cooperation. Many people in the French Resistance were officially "affiliated" with the Nazis in some way; this is part of what made them so effective. The same is true of those who helped Jews flee from Nazi-controlled areas.
Re: 1/13 noon at MIT: Protest wrongful prosecution of Aaron Swartz
#74Just for Aaron? Oh man, what about every one else? US law is insane, hurting too many people to list. Mostly, Americans, but also world citizens who don't even get to vote in the US. You need to deal with law its self, not this one single individual. Not just the law, but I suspect your entire value system. I had sympathy yesterday, but this is turning in to hero martyr worship. Its getting ridiculous. Step back and…
Guys, you in US really need new kind of anti-establisment movement, because you are fighting against Goliat here. MIT and others ARE part of establishment and if establishment decide to take control over internet, they will do it. Wait, they ARE DOING it right now and as you can see people are getting killed just because someone said "i want you to click and pay". Damn, if someone said to me few decades ago that inte…
Re: 1/13 noon at MIT: Protest wrongful prosecution of Aaron Swartz
#75I have been digesting this news for a day and even though Aaron was a complete stranger to me, I can't remember feeling outrage this persistent in my entire life. This was an attack on freedom not carried out by a confused and brainwashed group of people desperate for their lives due to living in an impoverished country or warzone. It was an organised attack, meant to ruin a person's life and deter anyone who wants t…
Re: 1/13 noon at MIT: Protest wrongful prosecution of Aaron Swartz
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Guys, you in US really need new kind of anti-establisment movement, because you are fighting against Goliat here. MIT and others ARE part of establishment and if establishment decide to take control over internet, they will do it. Wait, they ARE DOING it right now and as you can see people are getting killed just because someone said "i want you to click and pay". Damn, if someone said to me few decades ago that inte…
Interesting point. What is essentially a two party system doesn't really allow smaller groups to participate in high level political discourse.
Re: 1/13 noon at MIT: Protest wrongful prosecution of Aaron Swartz
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
In fact, a federal prosecutor would be behaving in an impeachable way to fail to pursue a violation of federal law. Citation needed. Particularly considering the fact that prosecutors do not have the resources to pursue all violations of federal law. Doubly so given that multiple states currently have extremely uneven enforcement of federal law around the sale of marijuana. Selective enforcement is a reality.
Federal prosecutors swear an oath to uphold all federal laws, and are generally bound by that oath unless an executive order by the president directs them not to enforce a particular law (in which case the president, not the prosecutor, would be subject to potential impeachment). State and local prosecutors do not have the resources to pursue violations of federal law; they also do not have the jurisdiction to do so.…
Re: 1/13 noon at MIT: Protest wrongful prosecution of Aaron Swartz
#78I have been digesting this news for a day and even though Aaron was a complete stranger to me, I can't remember feeling outrage this persistent in my entire life. This was an attack on freedom not carried out by a confused and brainwashed group of people desperate for their lives due to living in an impoverished country or warzone. It was an organised attack, meant to ruin a person's life and deter anyone who wants t…
Re: 1/13 noon at MIT: Protest wrongful prosecution of Aaron Swartz
#79Just for Aaron? Oh man, what about every one else? US law is insane, hurting too many people to list. Mostly, Americans, but also world citizens who don't even get to vote in the US. You need to deal with law its self, not this one single individual. Not just the law, but I suspect your entire value system. I had sympathy yesterday, but this is turning in to hero martyr worship. Its getting ridiculous. Step back and…
The Wall Street Protests failed, because among other things, they had too many vague, overarching goals with no end plan. And so now with Swartz's death, people have a human face to put on the failures of our justice system...and you want to berate them for not being strategic enough?
Aarons death can also be a catalyst for change and I think a cause OWS would be interested in supporting as well.