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My Aaron Swartz, whom I loved

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Re: My Aaron Swartz, whom I loved

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Post by jessaustin »

potatolicious wrote: post #19
jessaustin wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not really a fan of Norton's journalism, but the insinuation you've made here is execrable. You're a typical American, criticizing a victim of our judicial process rather than the evil prosecutors who distort it for their own gain.

So... you're responding to an attack against the character of a single individual, with an attack against the character of all Americans . Smooth. This is a tragedy, and how people view this will vary widely, there is no need kneejerk hate-filled ignorance, even if it does make you feel better.

I'm an American myself. Unlike you, I've been paying attention.

Re: My Aaron Swartz, whom I loved

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Post by cynwoody »

Resident_Geek wrote: post #27
LukeShu wrote: post #26

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To many people to call someone a monkey is to say that the race they belong to is less evolved; biologically closer to monkeys.

Sure, but what indication is there that the comment is referring to her race?

Absolutely none.

Indeed, to accuse an insulter of racism for deriding someone as belonging to another species is to conflate the concepts of race and species. At best that's ignorant; at worst it's racist!

As to the prosecutor's species, isn't the saga of Aaron Swartz sufficient evidence? As to her race, have a look at her picture and judge for yourself:

http://goo.gl/JNck7

Re: My Aaron Swartz, whom I loved

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Post by tomjen3 »

jplewicke wrote: post #24
tomjen3 wrote: post #18

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Then go tell that to the murder. I hope the prosecutor burns in hell. Fuck that monkey and all she has ever done.

Calling her a monkey is unbearably and unquestionably racist, and I think you might want to take a minute or two and think about why you said that. From http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/semmelweis : "Looking at ourselves objectively isn’t easy. But it’s essential if we ever want to get better. And if we don’t do it, we leave ourselves open to con artists and ethical compromisers who prey on our desire to believe we’re p…

No it is not racist. I called her a monkey because her actions show that she can't be a higher developed primate.

I don't know her race.

Re: My Aaron Swartz, whom I loved

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Post by anoncow »

cma wrote: post #21
tomjen3 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then go tell that to the murder. I hope the prosecutor burns in hell. Fuck that monkey and all she has ever done.

Maybe she was told to do it from higher-ups, and was fighting for the right thing piece by piece but it just wasn't achievable in this instance without maybe a resignation--which in her estimation would only lead to replacement by someone who would follow orders and not even give her own level of push-back. It is perhaps even more likely that that isn't the case, but don't assume things.

That is likely, everyone deserves a second chance. But the system needs mending.

Re: My Aaron Swartz, whom I loved

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Post by Vivtek »

tomjen3 wrote: post #33
jplewicke wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Calling her a monkey is unbearably and unquestionably racist, and I think you might want to take a minute or two and think about why you said that. From http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/semmelweis : "Looking at ourselves objectively isn’t easy. But it’s essential if we ever want to get better. And if we don’t do it, we leave ourselves open to con artists and ethical compromisers who prey on our desire to believe we’re p…

No it is not racist. I called her a monkey because her actions show that she can't be a higher developed primate. I don't know her race.

Yeah, about that "higher development" thing - that's not the way evolution works (every organism on the planet is the result of the same 4.5 billion years of adaptation), but it is the way racism works. Let's keep this kind of sentiment away from HNN, OK?

Re: My Aaron Swartz, whom I loved

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Post by obv_throwaway »

I honestly dont know what to make of Quinn Norton.

She likes to call herself a journalist but it seems to me that she always puts herself in the story. I am seeing some of that here as well.

I'm also uncomfortable with her "claiming" him as a "lover." I'd be rather uncomfortable with one of my ex's writing articles about me after my death.

Then again, maybe I'm missing something here.

Re: My Aaron Swartz, whom I loved

#37

Post by vidarh »

cma wrote: post #21
tomjen3 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then go tell that to the murder. I hope the prosecutor burns in hell. Fuck that monkey and all she has ever done.

Maybe she was told to do it from higher-ups, and was fighting for the right thing piece by piece but it just wasn't achievable in this instance without maybe a resignation--which in her estimation would only lead to replacement by someone who would follow orders and not even give her own level of push-back. It is perhaps even more likely that that isn't the case, but don't assume things.

If you're ordered to destroy someone's life from higher-ups for the wrong reasons, and your option is to resign, you resign or you are still responsible.

Re: My Aaron Swartz, whom I loved

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Post by vidarh »

obv_throwaway wrote: post #36

I honestly dont know what to make of Quinn Norton. She likes to call herself a journalist but it seems to me that she always puts herself in the story. I am seeing some of that here as well. I'm also uncomfortable with her "claiming" him as a "lover." I'd be rather uncomfortable with one of my ex's writing articles about me after my death. Then again, maybe I'm missing something here.

Yes, you seem to miss the fact that it's an obituary written by someone who loved the person who has died.

Complaining that she "puts herself in the story"? On her personal blog? When someone she loved has just died? Seriously? Are you really that callous?

(And if my ex wrote about me like that after my death, then I'd be perfectly fine with it.)

Re: My Aaron Swartz, whom I loved

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Post by obv_throwaway »

vidarh wrote: post #38
obv_throwaway wrote: post #36

I honestly dont know what to make of Quinn Norton. She likes to call herself a journalist but it seems to me that she always puts herself in the story. I am seeing some of that here as well. I'm also uncomfortable with her "claiming" him as a "lover." I'd be rather uncomfortable with one of my ex's writing articles about me after my death. Then again, maybe I'm missing something here.

Yes, you seem to miss the fact that it's an obituary written by someone who loved the person who has died. Complaining that she "puts herself in the story"? On her personal blog? When someone she loved has just died? Seriously? Are you really that callous? (And if my ex wrote about me like that after my death, then I'd be perfectly fine with it.)

I'll admit to a fair share of kneejerk annoyance to her writing and her attitudes in general.

But my sense of her article is that she's maybe a bit insensitive to the person who was his current partner, Taren. Some feelings aren't meant to be written down and shared with all the world to see.

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