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Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by crazygringo »

jiaaro wrote: post #28

Honestly... this made things confusing without improving my reading ability. a lot of people actually like scrolling. So many people in fact, that they successfully pressured Apple to add scrolling as an alternative to pagination in iBooks. I'm one of the people who uses that. I'm trying to be polite, but my honest reaction to this interface was, "oh god, this is awful," when I tried to use the mouse to scroll the pa…

The New Yorker iPhone app does a fantastic job by combining the best of both worlds.

Most articles are "paginated", but you "scroll" up/down between pages. So you get the same nice physical sensation of vertical scrolling, but also the nice physical sensation of pages. (Plus, they get to lay out photos nicely, etc., knowing how it will fit exactly with the text.)

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by toulla »

LarrySDonald wrote: post #29
Jabbles wrote: post #8

What benefit does this have over scrolling = next page? Your eyes have to refocus on the top of the page anyway, you might as well have refreshed the whole text, not just the top line of the second line. Interesting idea though - what does this do on a touch device?

This is already standard on ereaders, nearly all (even if it's a tablet or PC app) do this. I don't like it, more than 1/3rd of the time a page turn is accompanied by a "back to last page, back to current page" as it annihilates my flow (yes, that includes dead trees). VT100 may have something to do with this though. Straight scroll isn't optimal either. When reading long texts, I prefer to have it presented in chunk…

You mean "paper". It's called paper. What are you, a savage who's never seen a book in his life?

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by sherjilozair »

rdwallis wrote: post #104
nosse wrote: post #89

If you could do this to pdf, I might be willing to pay little for it.

pdf is not reflowable. So I don't think it's possible while still adhering to the pdf standard.

A PDF extractor could be used first, to get the content to be in the same standard as required, and then your tool could make it scroll this way.

This would be quite useful to me as a PDF reader.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by rdwallis »

abcd_f wrote: post #286
rdwallis wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you on a netbook or otherwise slow computer? I'll see what I can do to add some breaks to the page rendering loop. I get the impression that the Firefox version needs a bit of work.

Nope, a year old ThinkPad Edge. Hardware performance is certainly not an issue. I get this message in the log right after the page is loaded.

Should be fixed now.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by jiaaro »

robmcm wrote: post #73
saint-loup wrote: post #44

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"You'll get used to it" can quickly becomes a lazy excuse for many bad experimentations in interaction design, but in this case I really think this is the right answer. At first, I found it disturbing as hell, and the implementation could be better (for instance, with a margin between the two pages, in addition to the black line), but this is really an interesting and promising answer to the pagination/scroll debate.

Like, you'll get used to inverted scroll in Mountain Lion? Innovation takes getting used to, evolution doesn't.

for what it's worth, I use "natural scrolling" in mountain lion

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by welder »

kafkaesque wrote: post #111
welder wrote: post #102

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Try this: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/beeline-reader/lca... It color codes lines aiming to solve missing or loosing your place while reading.

Thanks! I gave it a quick whirl and couldn't get it working on websites. It never captured the proper text (e.g., on latimes.com). I'll try it out tonight.

It was hastily written for a 24hr hackathon so yea it can be improved. It finds the largest block of text on the page and assumes that's the important content. If the comments section is larger than the article text, the extension incorrectly uses the comments.

If you find it helps your reading please email me and I'll take time to improve and fix it.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by abcd_f »

rdwallis wrote: post #304
abcd_f wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope, a year old ThinkPad Edge. Hardware performance is certainly not an issue. I get this message in the log right after the page is loaded.

Should be fixed now.

It's not, I'm afraid. Getting the exact same error message in the log. One difference is that now it requires only one Ctrl/- and a reload to start working.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by rdwallis »

abcd_f wrote: post #307
rdwallis wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Should be fixed now.

It's not, I'm afraid. Getting the exact same error message in the log. One difference is that now it requires only one Ctrl/- and a reload to start working.

Thanks can you email me at support@magicscroll.net. I can't reproduce the error so I'll need help testing the fix.
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