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Monoprice Announces 27-Inch 2560 x 1440 Monitor for $390

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Re: Monoprice Announces 27-Inch 2560 x 1440 Monitor for $390

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Post by aes256 »

moepstar wrote: post #96
jsankey wrote: post #13

If you're a bit paranoid about quality/support for some of the cheaper 27" monitors out there a good compromise is to wait for the Dell U2713HM to be on sale. It's regularly 30% off which brings it down to ~$500 (+ GST in Australia, AUD and USD are comparable). I'm happy with mine!

I've got a Dell U2711 which also has the same panel as the Apple Cinema displays and yet was only about 2/3 of the cost... 3 years warranty (though i've heard they replace your broken display with returned ones which might or might not be faulty) , color calibrated and no-dead-pixel-guarantee... Edit: Ah, seems the display mentioned by parent has LED backlighting compared to CCFL in mine - of course i'd prefer the LE…

I wouldn't be so sure on the LED/CCFL issue.

LED backlighting is still a consistency nightmare, with bleed and clouding being the norm.

Re: Monoprice Announces 27-Inch 2560 x 1440 Monitor for $390

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Post by mixmastamyk »

mtgx wrote: post #128
mixmastamyk wrote: post #119

The $64k question... How can I get one at 20-22" ~ 200+dpi? Like the IBM T221 from ten years ago? Every geek site I go people are on their hands and knees begging to get their hands on one at any price. 27" is too big for my desk and would rather not have to move my head side to side to see everything.

You need a 4k resolution for that (3840x2160). I think you'll see them next year. I doubt it will be more than $2,000. Might even be just ~$1,000.

I'd settle for the res stated in the article.

Re: Monoprice Announces 27-Inch 2560 x 1440 Monitor for $390

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Post by riobard »

gcr wrote: post #78
riobard wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Portrait mode will screw subpixel rendering of text.

In most linuxes, you can ask for vertical subpixel hinting, at the very least from the command line. I'm pretty sure that Windows has a setting for it too buried in the graphics card display settings somewhere.

Unfortunately vertical subpixel rendering is much less effective than horizontal rendering due to the nature of latin scripts.

Re: Monoprice Announces 27-Inch 2560 x 1440 Monitor for $390

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Post by riobard »

FootballMuse wrote: post #139
riobard wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Portrait mode will screw subpixel rendering of text.

You realize we are talking about a 2560x1440 monitor right? Depending on your DPI settings, one can consider turning off subpixel smoothing at this res. At 4k you should certainly consider it. Plus, I'm sure various implementations are better than others. Does the iPad have this problem?

True, it's a 2560x1440 display, but it's not “retina“ yet. There is still a big difference with and without subpixel rendering, especially for smaller texts. Well, at least to my “retina” spoiled eyes. YMMV.

iOS does not use subpixel rendering at all, possibly due to the inconsistence of text rendering in different orientations.

Re: Monoprice Announces 27-Inch 2560 x 1440 Monitor for $390

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Post by benjarrell »

jfb wrote: post #131
Negitivefrags wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows upscales applications that do not support scaling automatically. This gives it perfect backwards compatibility. Windows applications that do support arbitrary scaling just get to see the world as it is, and also work perfectly because they have been designed to do so. The Apple approach is some kind of misguided middle ground. Applications are fooled in to thinking that they are rendering on a "normal" sized…

Have you seen the results? It's crazy, but it works , and has the added advantage of not having to wait until "just next year" when all existing applications will be ported to our New Hot Vector Based display tech.

Sounds like waiting for apps to support retina displays :)

Re: Monoprice Announces 27-Inch 2560 x 1440 Monitor for $390

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Post by zanny »

sp332 wrote: post #152
jfb wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But what does "enough" mean? Regardless of eyeball distance, more resolution -- certeris paribus -- will mean the ability to display a superior image. I want 300ppi on a 30" screen.

"Enough" specifically means that if you increase it, or even double it, you won't be able to tell the difference. With 20/20 vision, your eye cannot resolve details finer than about one arc minute. (Note that 20/20 vision is, in practice, a limitation of the lens of your eye and not really the retina part.) So if you have better-than-average vision I guess you might need more pixels... or just sit a bit further back…

I'll consider it enough when I no longer get light headaches reading subpixel-rendered text on a desktop LCD at 18 - 24". My 1080p 22" display has ~100 PPI and that makes my head ache. That 27" 4k resolution display would have 160 PPI, which might be enough for me. But the 1440p 27" display only has 120 PPI and I still get headaches off that.

It is the same thing as FOV in FPS games. Some people get really bad headaches with narrow FOV on widescreens, some don't. If the 1440p 27" display is good enough for you, then just don't buy a more expensive 4k display at that resolution. Or get a 32" 4k display and get more space. I'm gonna get the 27" one because it feels easier on my eyes, probably at a price premium. I'm fine with that, I just want the pixel density.

Re: Monoprice Announces 27-Inch 2560 x 1440 Monitor for $390

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Post by danielwarna »

kaolinite wrote: post #123
venomsnake wrote: post #84

Now if only some entrepreneurial soul manages to import similar in Europe at no more than 500USD.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-019-... I have that one, worth every penny.

My brother has one of those as well. He's been really happy with it so far.
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