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I want the world to scroll this way

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Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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This seems to result in a large number of cases where the visual experience is pointless. The line separating the previous and next page is tiny and easy to miss, and I don't see the use in two torn half-pages on screen. I agree that smooth scrolling long text is hard to read and trips up line scanning, but this UX seems be like playing an cruel game where I have to drag just enough to scroll a whole page. Any more o…

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Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Good news is that the issue is recognized by the Mozilla team at the very least: >Pages with position:fixed banners/headers are all the rage these days. But when I try to read content inside one of these pages and hit Page Down or Spacebar, firefox calculates the page length relative to the whole browser window, not just the part visible underneath the position:fixed header. So it scrolls too much, and the first few…

That's great news. Do you know what release this will land in? Edit: Oops, I guess it's already there. I couldn't think of a site with an appropriately sized fixed header to test it, but Google+ is such a site and pagedown works perfectly there. Nice.

What about the bug where Edit > Find scrolls the page so that the hit is at the top of the window, but there's a fixed element hiding the hit?

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

#275

This seems to result in a large number of cases where the visual experience is pointless. The line separating the previous and next page is tiny and easy to miss, and I don't see the use in two torn half-pages on screen. I agree that smooth scrolling long text is hard to read and trips up line scanning, but this UX seems be like playing an cruel game where I have to drag just enough to scroll a whole page. Any more o…

I could almost agree, except I just tried the auto scroll option (space key to toggle and + / - to modify speed), it might be very subjective, but this helped me read this start to end smoothly, I kind of like it, can't explain why, it is much better than auto scrolling the "old way" where the text moves. Somehow he made it so the speed was just right for me, but I'm sure many will find it annoying.

EDIT: tried it on some other articles, chose some boring ones just for the contrast, it might be just me, but the auto scroll option is going to be the only way I read articles in the near future, I actually read them faster, and more likely to reach to the end of it (based on a very short experiment though). It's also a great distraction killer (ads, banners, related stories) Nice.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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This seems to result in a large number of cases where the visual experience is pointless. The line separating the previous and next page is tiny and easy to miss, and I don't see the use in two torn half-pages on screen. I agree that smooth scrolling long text is hard to read and trips up line scanning, but this UX seems be like playing an cruel game where I have to drag just enough to scroll a whole page. Any more o…

Your alternate solution gets annoying if the page has a header overlaying the text. Like Google+ does. Then you scroll a page, and have to scroll back a little. That said, this solution will also break in that situation. But it will break worse since there will be no way to get the text at the top to scroll into view.

Google+ sucks in pretty much every single way possible.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

#278
post #219
post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good news is that the issue is recognized by the Mozilla team at the very least: >Pages with position:fixed banners/headers are all the rage these days. But when I try to read content inside one of these pages and hit Page Down or Spacebar, firefox calculates the page length relative to the whole browser window, not just the part visible underneath the position:fixed header. So it scrolls too much, and the first few…

That's great news. Do you know what release this will land in? Edit: Oops, I guess it's already there. I couldn't think of a site with an appropriately sized fixed header to test it, but Google+ is such a site and pagedown works perfectly there. Nice.

I just tested it on: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/faq.php?sid=3eaf67c60d15ce...

Works for me on FF17. Does not work on Safari or Chrome.

BusinessWeek.com articles don't totally work. They seem to have an extra pop with their header. So 2 levels of BS. Can't totally fault the browser there.

Techcrunch.com works perfectly fine too.

So yes, fixed in FF17 and also seen to work on FF18.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Loved that feature, it feels so much more natural. It was only a problem when I had to use a windows computer for like 5 minutes and everything was inverted again.

Yeah, that is how I felt at first as well. But I regularly use a Windows VM / Remote Desktop Client for Windows on my Mac, so I've gotten used to scrolling one way in the VM window or the RDC, and the other way outside it in the rest of my Mac. Now, for better or worse, I have no problems switching my scrolling when I'm using someone's Windows computer.

You can actually enable this scrolling behavior in Windows through a per-mouse registry setting[0].

[0]: http://www.bisql.net/2011/12/natural-scroll-win-7/

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