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Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by return0 »

kafkaesque wrote: post #173
return0 wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am strabismic too, but don't have problems with reading text. In fact, while strabismus affects 3d perception, i don't see how scrolling and reading are affected unless one has double vision.

Cool. Not everyone with strabismus has the same symptoms, right? It depends on many factors, as I'm sure you know, which is why I tried to give a bit more info on myself. When I had my third eye surgery (due to my strabismic eyes) around 1995, they told me reading from line to line would be harder at first. And they were right. At this point, though, they had gone into my eyes before I was 5 twice and had cut and the…

For me, I ve never had surgery which is why I never had eye movement problems as you describe. Surgery involves shortening (cutting) the muscles that rotate the eye, which requires a period of readjustment.

Reading text in books requires quick eye jumps (saccades). Now, with smooth scrolling, we add to that the need to do smooth pursuit movements , trying to follow the scrolling text. For me, the biggest problem is figuring out where to continue reading after scrolling when the smooth pursuit ends (probably because smooth pursuit has higher margin of error). I think it would really be helpful is there was a line indicating the previous page boundary on screen when changing pages.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by abcd_f »

rdwallis wrote: post #147
abcd_f wrote: post #137

Timestamp: 11/01/2013 7:28:33 PM Error: too much recursion Source File: http://www.magicscroll.net/staticScroll.js Line: 751 Firefox 17 on W7

Is this on the page itself? Or is it when using the bookmarklet?

On the page itself. I can make the page work if I zoom out by pressing Ctrl/- three times or more (and reload the page afterwards).

This is what I see without zooming - http://imgur.com/pGJuk

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by scott_s »

tokipin wrote: post #148
scott_s wrote: post #127

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I'm not sure that's relevant, though, because someone else is controlling the scrolling according to what they are reading. That it interferes with your reading is unsurprising, and I don't think says much about the reading experience when you are in control.

my mom has trouble using computers because of the scrolling. i imagine it's something in the same category as how i can't read anything in a moving vehicle without getting a ginormous headache, but other people don't have trouble with it :|

Okay, but that's kind of a non-sequitur in reply to my comment, which was pointing out that you can't conclude much about reading-with-scrolling when someone else controls the scrolling.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by heeton »

This is horrible :/

I'm getting lost on the page, there's no simple anchor for my eyes. I agree with some of the arguments (scrolling disrupts reading position) but this doesn't fix it.

Iterate some more, perhaps try entire pages moving down to replace the existing page? Something, anything, to give me a better feeling for scrolling through pages.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by shardling »

graue wrote: post #219
iSnow wrote: post #190

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Good news is that the issue is recognized by the Mozilla team at the very least: >Pages with position:fixed banners/headers are all the rage these days. But when I try to read content inside one of these pages and hit Page Down or Spacebar, firefox calculates the page length relative to the whole browser window, not just the part visible underneath the position:fixed header. So it scrolls too much, and the first few…

That's great news. Do you know what release this will land in? Edit: Oops, I guess it's already there. I couldn't think of a site with an appropriately sized fixed header to test it, but Google+ is such a site and pagedown works perfectly there. Nice.

It says it landed in FF17, which I think should mean it's there already?

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by return0 »

kafkaesque wrote: post #196
napoleond wrote: post #189

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Another strabismic person weighing in ;) (Is that even the right word? People just call me cross-eyed...) I had eye surgerie(s?) when I was very young and don't really remember them. They probably helped, but I've avoided further surgery due to the "guinea pig" impression you describe, and the fact that I don't feel like my vision is severely inhibited. My depth perception is probably worse than that of other people,…

Ah! Hey, I'm willing to agree that it might just be my googly-eyes that this works for :) This question is for all of you with strabismic (yes, it is a word :D) eyes: Do you 'see' 3D movies? Or are all of them flat with red, blue and various outlines on the screen? For me, it's the latter. Now I have no idea if this has to do with this condition or is something else!

Strabismic people that do not correct the problem before ~8 years old do not have 3d perception using binocular disparity (that is,estimating depth in short distances using only the differences between the images of the two eyes). For me (never had surgery), I cannot see 3d dot stereograms or 3d movies (I ve never actually watched a 3d movie, but I have tried seeing blue/white 3d images in vain).

There are other ways to perceive 3d, such as motion parallax, so yes, we are normal people too :)

That's the reason i am not excited about 3d movies and hope they keep making 2d versions of them

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by smsm42 »

I think the way that page scrolls is distracting and inconvenient. I am used to getting the next page in one action. Getting only one line per action significantly impairs my reading, and having half of the page cover other half is very confusing.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by reillyse »

Nice solution, makes reading text online far easier and I read to the end of the article which is something I rarely ever do online.

Because you have a pretty good idea if the person has scrolled to the last page (cause you are tracking it) you should be able to get some metrics on how many people finish the article etc and use it to promote your product.

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