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We are in the final years of our internet

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Re: We are in the final years of our internet

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You voted with your startup creating apps instead of websites and your wallet by buying apps that this is what you wanted. That I warned you (http://drupal4hu.com/future/freedom) doesn't matter but Douglas Rushkoff warned you and you still didn't listen. So crying over the lost freedom is all that's left, congratulations.

Re: We are in the final years of our internet

#33
The early web was scattered because there was infrastructure in place but the initiatives were short-lived, diverged, or motivated by personal reasons.

It's the nature of our market - or maybe our culture - for things to agglomerate and monopolize though. Just notice how it's more likely you're wearing shoes made by a multinational company, not the shoemaker next door, or even yourself.

Re: We are in the final years of our internet

#34

I was looking through old computer magazines from the 1980s and thinking about my youth when there were numerous incompatible microcomputer platforms that had some popularity at some point such as * TRS-80 Models I and III * VIC 20, C-64, C-128 * Apple II, II+, IIe, ... * CP/M systems based on the S-100 bus * IBM PC and way too many others to mention. Eventually the PC and the Mac won out, except for a few Amiga fana…

but didn't it really just boil down to 6502 vs z80 back then? Now we have Windows vs OSX but not much has really changed.

Re: We are in the final years of our internet

#36
"How will our children learn to create digitally?" THAT is the problem, tablets and smartphones are designed to CONSUME, not create: There are some crazy guys who write code in their iPad, but let's face it, 95% of users only consume content in their devices.

Re: We are in the final years of our internet

#37
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A more concise argument is that your Android tablet that is Junior's first computing experience is significantly less hackable than your Commodore 64, which was more hackable than your DOS machine, which was more hackable than your Windows 95 machine, which was more hackable than your XP machine, et. cetera. Devices provide higher levels of abstraction from the tweak and tunables on the system, but only now are we se…

Really good (long) summary, zanny. That was what I had garnered from the article's musings. It's something I've thought about a lot myself actually. How would I give a child the opportunity to learn to hack or program if they wanted to? For me it started with c-64 basic cause it wasn't compiled, then visual basic when I was like 13... I guess C# or Java could probably be taught very easily, but it feels like starting…

Maybe something like Lua? Has the added advantage for kids that it is used extensively in games as a scripting system.

Re: We are in the final years of our internet

#38
I have kids, and I disagree that things are going to play out as black-and-white as the author suggests. My daughter (2) does stick to the curated appstore/app world on her tablet, but she's just as anxious to get her hands on my laptop and uses it to do different things. Like typing "cat" into google images to see cat pictures. Just like the rest of us ;)

Re: We are in the final years of our internet

#40

This is somewhat all over the place without a lot of supporting evidence. Is the author suggesting that the web will die, and be replaced by thousands of special purpose apps that must be downloaded from the app store?

My thoughts exactly, and I think that is what the author was trying to say. The argument seems to be "children use tablets, therefore no open Internet." Last time I checked children turn into teenagers and then adults, both of which have different habits and drivers. It's like saying, "children watch cartoons, therefore no live action TV and movies."

The problem with cartoons is we outgrew them, that did not happen with PCs. PCs evolved so fast in the span of a couple decades they became ingrained in most aspects of our lives and works and educations.

Three years ago the iPad didn't even exist.

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