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Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by nollidge »

masklinn wrote: post #154
btilly wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your alternate solution gets annoying if the page has a header overlaying the text. Like Google+ does. Then you scroll a page, and have to scroll back a little. That said, this solution will also break in that situation. But it will break worse since there will be no way to get the text at the top to scroll into view.

> Your alternate solution gets annoying if the page has a header overlaying the text. So you're saying the working solution doesn't work on sites with completely broken UIs such as Google+? What a surprise. That's like criticizing middle-click-to-open-in-new-tab because it doesn't work on broken sites implementing fake links via javascript, without actual links backing them.

How is that a broken UI? Should they use frames instead?

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by kafkaesque »

return0 wrote: post #160
kafkaesque wrote: post #63

I was born with pretty severe strabismus and underwent a few major eye surgeries throughout my life. One of the side effects of being born with this condition is missing lines when reading a book. Growing up with computers, I always found it a little difficult to follow long lines of text or the next line as I scroll. I'm a lot older now and hardly have these problems, if ever at all. I've pretty much perfected guess…

I am strabismic too, but don't have problems with reading text. In fact, while strabismus affects 3d perception, i don't see how scrolling and reading are affected unless one has double vision.

Cool.

Not everyone with strabismus has the same symptoms, right? It depends on many factors, as I'm sure you know, which is why I tried to give a bit more info on myself. When I had my third eye surgery (due to my strabismic eyes) around 1995, they told me reading from line to line would be harder at first. And they were right. At this point, though, they had gone into my eyes before I was 5 twice and had cut and then 'reconnected' some nerves. Only my third time was laser. As you may know, knowledge of the causes of this eye problem, especially in the 80s, was pretty minimal. I remember feeling like a guinea pig because they would contradict each other sometimes and say one thing then say they don't fully understand this condition and would have to try different things. And then the "Well, you can try it".

What I'm saying is, it's not as clear cut. It's always interesting for me to read others's experience with strabismus, though.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by rdwallis »

BSeward wrote: post #152

This is cool! An interesting experiment. I think a quick shadow does a lot to give the divider some heft and alleviate concerns about visual ambiguity between foreground and background page. It would look something like http://cl.ly/image/2N3B2V2d2L3W (pardon the wonky #ss_topPage). It can be done in CSS (+ two empty divs, uh) with small effort. To me it feels like the most usable skeuomorphic hint you could drop.

That looks great. I'll see if I can update it tomorrow.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by icebraining »

nollidge wrote: post #171
masklinn wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Your alternate solution gets annoying if the page has a header overlaying the text. So you're saying the working solution doesn't work on sites with completely broken UIs such as Google+? What a surprise. That's like criticizing middle-click-to-open-in-new-tab because it doesn't work on broken sites implementing fake links via javascript, without actual links backing them.

How is that a broken UI? Should they use frames instead?

No, they should allow the header to scroll with the rest of the page.
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