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Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by scott_s »

nhaehnle wrote: post #138
scott_s wrote: post #125

Compared with print, you're less likely to finish the article, you'll read it slower, you'll skip over sentences and your comprehension will go down. Not for me. I am far more likely to finish a news article on the web - with a physical newspaper, I read the beginning of many front page stories, but don't always flip to the rest of it. The rest of the claims are quite dubious. It's a neat technology, one which I may…

Not for me. I am far more likely to finish a news article on the web - with a physical newspaper, I read the beginning of many front page stories, but don't always flip to the rest of it. I wonder how much of that can be attributed to the fact that you're just not sufficiently interested. Kind of like reading the blurb on a website, and then not clicking through to the article itself. Something to keep in mind also:…

If I'm interested enough, I'll flip the (physical) pages. But I have to be more interested than on a computer - despite having been heavily involved on my high school newspaper, I don't like the feel of newsprint, particularly during breakfast.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by BSeward »

This is cool! An interesting experiment.

I think a quick shadow does a lot to give the divider some heft and alleviate concerns about visual ambiguity between foreground and background page.

It would look something like http://cl.ly/image/2N3B2V2d2L3W (pardon the wonky #ss_topPage). It can be done in CSS (+ two empty divs, uh) with small effort. To me it feels like the most usable skeuomorphic hint you could drop.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by digitalengineer »

lazyGeneral wrote: post #48
jiaaro wrote: post #28

Honestly... this made things confusing without improving my reading ability. a lot of people actually like scrolling. So many people in fact, that they successfully pressured Apple to add scrolling as an alternative to pagination in iBooks. I'm one of the people who uses that. I'm trying to be polite, but my honest reaction to this interface was, "oh god, this is awful," when I tried to use the mouse to scroll the pa…

It would be a lot less confusing if the text from the previous page dissapeared...or if that line that follows you worked not with pages but as a scroll.... The line is the interesting feature.

Yes! That was the 1st thing I thought as well. If you could make the previous text disappear or set it at 30% opacity it wouldn't even ned a divider. I like the way this reads. I'd like to see it as a feature for iBooks / e-readers.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by masklinn »

btilly wrote: post #143
munificent wrote: post #124

This seems to result in a large number of cases where the visual experience is pointless. The line separating the previous and next page is tiny and easy to miss, and I don't see the use in two torn half-pages on screen. I agree that smooth scrolling long text is hard to read and trips up line scanning, but this UX seems be like playing an cruel game where I have to drag just enough to scroll a whole page. Any more o…

Your alternate solution gets annoying if the page has a header overlaying the text. Like Google+ does. Then you scroll a page, and have to scroll back a little. That said, this solution will also break in that situation. But it will break worse since there will be no way to get the text at the top to scroll into view.

> Your alternate solution gets annoying if the page has a header overlaying the text.

So you're saying the working solution doesn't work on sites with completely broken UIs such as Google+? What a surprise.

That's like criticizing middle-click-to-open-in-new-tab because it doesn't work on broken sites implementing fake links via javascript, without actual links backing them.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by ebbv »

This is nice for people who want it, and it might be better for reading on phones (but that will require testing to confirm.)

For reading on a large enough display (laptop, desktop or even any newer tablet), I think it's unnecessary. The way I read on these devices doesn't involve scrolling very often. I read like I do on print, but scrolling replaces the page turn much like it does on his. I don't read text while I'm scrolling usually, I'll read what's on the page, then scroll it to give me a new chunk to read. It's not a big deal at all.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by masklinn »

fastball wrote: post #60
pertinhower wrote: post #50

Nice idea, badly implemented. The interface teaches me how to use it very badly. The most obvious interface clues are the arrows to either side of the page, but these work in the usual manner (hopping from page to page), so they distract me from the heart of your interface. When I do happen to mousewheel, I can't immediately understand what that does. Am I moving myself or a divider? Why is the divider coming from th…

I think you're over-engineering your analysis... I immediately knew what was going on when I started scrolling, so I don't share your view that it is counter-intuitive. Also, I think your problem with the scrolling is your mouse. Does your mouse have a smoothly scrolling middle button, or is it one of the ones that moves in clicks? Scrolling with my touchpad worked excellently. You only see a white page when you are…

I can only say that, scrolling with a touchpad gesture (OSX), I fully agree with pertinhower and completely disagree with yours.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by flogic »

munificent wrote: post #124

This seems to result in a large number of cases where the visual experience is pointless. The line separating the previous and next page is tiny and easy to miss, and I don't see the use in two torn half-pages on screen. I agree that smooth scrolling long text is hard to read and trips up line scanning, but this UX seems be like playing an cruel game where I have to drag just enough to scroll a whole page. Any more o…

An alternate solution is to change the background for the lower order page. I do something similar for my terminal sessions. It helps me keep "prod1", "prod2", and "test" separate.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by return0 »

kafkaesque wrote: post #63

I was born with pretty severe strabismus and underwent a few major eye surgeries throughout my life. One of the side effects of being born with this condition is missing lines when reading a book. Growing up with computers, I always found it a little difficult to follow long lines of text or the next line as I scroll. I'm a lot older now and hardly have these problems, if ever at all. I've pretty much perfected guess…

I am strabismic too, but don't have problems with reading text. In fact, while strabismus affects 3d perception, i don't see how scrolling and reading are affected unless one has double vision.
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