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I want the world to scroll this way

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Re: I want the world to scroll this way

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Post by ChuckMcM »

Its a neat experiment. It reminded me of the scroll wars of yore, when the VT100 came out it had "smooth scroll" as an option vs "jump scroll" and there were long and heated debates about which was better. I personally found 'jump scroll' better but that was just me.

The moving bar revealing text is ok for keeping text from moving but it feels weird when part of the page is from one page and another part is from another. Reading with the arrows to just 'flip' the pages worked better for me.

Because the 'next' page starts at the top, it creates pagination / layout issues when a paragraph is split between the top and bottom of the page with the scroll line. This is tolerable in page flips because the previous part of the paragraph is gone, but distracting in partially turned pages.

All in all it was an interesting thing to look at and think about though.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

#92

Post by wtracy »

Thinking out loud here: Being able to click and drag (or swipe on a touch device) on the divider itself would be helpful.

And I agree with the comments that the divider itself doesn't provide enough of a visual cue about what's going on. I'd either go with the drop shadow suggestion, or play with a thicker divider that feels like a physical object.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

#93

Post by jxdxbx »

Here's something. This seems to have messed up Reeder for Mac. Any time I try to go to a page from the RSS feed I get a blank page. And if I do an "open this in browser" command I get sent to the magic scrolling page.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

#94

Post by sspiff »

wtracy wrote: post #77
msutherl wrote: post #66

1. One downside of this interface is that it's difficult to keep track of where you are. The scroll metaphor is broken and the pagination metaphor is not fully implemented (you need an indicator of where you are, like pages in a real book). The percentage indicator doesn't cut it. 2. Control feels too fine. It's too easy to lose your place and mental effort needs to be devoted to properly placing the page divider. I…

If you scroll using a touchpad the divider moves exactly one text line at a time. The problem is "clicky" mouse wheels that try to enforce their own units of movement.

With my clicky wheel on Firefox, it works just the same: one line at a time.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

#95

Post by rdwallis »

wtracy wrote: post #77
msutherl wrote: post #66

1. One downside of this interface is that it's difficult to keep track of where you are. The scroll metaphor is broken and the pagination metaphor is not fully implemented (you need an indicator of where you are, like pages in a real book). The percentage indicator doesn't cut it. 2. Control feels too fine. It's too easy to lose your place and mental effort needs to be devoted to properly placing the page divider. I…

If you scroll using a touchpad the divider moves exactly one text line at a time. The problem is "clicky" mouse wheels that try to enforce their own units of movement.

The scrolling changes based on whether you're using a Magic Mouse or not. With the Magic Mouse it won't snap to the line.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

#96

Post by cryptoz »

wtracy wrote: post #81
cryptoz wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe, but I don't think so. Content also disappears if you scroll using the mouse wheel (but more slowly, so there is some indication on how to get it back). However, nowhere else on the entire web does scrolling ever remove content from the page. I've never seen that happen, and there are multiple ways to accidentally remove content from this page. Maybe it's just a bug, but it seems intentional and it ruins the ex…

Every time I scroll down a web page, content disappears off the top of the screen. Are we talking about the same thing?

No, we're not, I guess. If you scroll down on a web page, the content becomes invisible off the top of the screen but it has not disappeared. You can still interact with it. You can select it. You can search for it. It's still there. With this, it's completely gone.

Re: I want the world to scroll this way

#98

Post by teebs »

robotmay wrote: post #78
robmcm wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like, you'll get used to inverted scroll in Mountain Lion? Innovation takes getting used to, evolution doesn't.

I never got used to that, it seemed totally backwards to me. I can deal with it on a screen where my finger is (almost) physically attached to what I'm scrolling, but not on a detached mouse/trackpad and display.

I actually got used to it fairly quickly. After a day or two I instinctively used reverse (or "natural") scrolling, and I can switch back pretty easily when I'm using other people's computers. It does seem like almost no one else switched though.
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