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Re: Safari is released to the world

#51

Post by frozenport » Fri, Jan 11, 2013, 10:37 AM UTC

Why did Apple feel the need to make a web browser?

Re: Safari is released to the world

#52

Post by pimeys » Fri, Jan 11, 2013, 10:38 AM UTC

kenneth wrote: post #7

The email Don sent to the KDE mailing list at the conference is also very much worth reading: http://lists.kde.org/?m=104197092318639

There was also a great reply:

> On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Vadim Plessky also wrote:

>> It seems we are very close to take market share from Microsoft :-)

> Keep on dreaming ;). Btw, markets are for selling, KDE is on the next

> plazza giving software away for free to the poor, geeks and other

> nonconformists (/me ducks).

http://lists.kde.org/?l=kfm-devel&m=104205781123001&...

Re: Safari is released to the world

#53

Post by albertzeyer » Fri, Jan 11, 2013, 10:44 AM UTC

What happened to KWQ? This looks like a great starting point when you want to port some KDE/Qt lib to native Cocoa. For example, I'm thinking about KDevelop, Amarok or others.

Re: Safari is released to the world

#54

Post by flyinRyan » Fri, Jan 11, 2013, 10:52 AM UTC

frozenport wrote: post #51

Why did Apple feel the need to make a web browser?

Because the existing ones all sucked?

Re: Safari is released to the world

#55

Post by eertami » Fri, Jan 11, 2013, 11:01 AM UTC

I enjoyed the CES keynote he linked to much more than any Apple keynote.

Re: Safari is released to the world

#56

Post by winter_blue » Fri, Jan 11, 2013, 11:04 AM UTC

Yaggo wrote: post #48

dave1010uk wrote: post #32

I'd like to hear about how WebKit went mobile for the iPhone. Eg if Apple worked with Nokia and their port of WebKit to Symbian, or started their own port from scratch.

You must be kidding.

The idea of Apple working with Nokia sound ridonkulous to you?

Re: Safari is released to the world

#57

Post by kawsper » Fri, Jan 11, 2013, 11:05 AM UTC

> But we did have great seats, just a few rows from the front — you didn’t want to be too close in case something really went wrong.

I wonder what that means.

Re: Safari is released to the world

#58

Post by chewxy » Fri, Jan 11, 2013, 11:16 AM UTC

frozenport wrote: post #51

Why did Apple feel the need to make a web browser?

From Don Melton's Mouth [0]:

    We built our own browser because we didn't want to depend on another company for a critical application.

    We built our own browser engine because we wanted to use the technology in more things than a browser.
    
    We built that engine small and fast because Bertrand Serlet would have shot me if I had done otherwise. :)

[0] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5006704

Re: Safari is released to the world

#59

Post by lucian1900 » Fri, Jan 11, 2013, 11:24 AM UTC

albertzeyer wrote: post #53

What happened to KWQ? This looks like a great starting point when you want to port some KDE/Qt lib to native Cocoa. For example, I'm thinking about KDevelop, Amarok or others.

Nowadays there isn't much need to port, since Qt has a good native Cocoa backend.

Re: Safari is released to the world

#60

Post by kawsper » Fri, Jan 11, 2013, 11:26 AM UTC

nodesocket wrote: post #39

2003 Safari keynote by the master himself, Steve Jobs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_ZNXQujgXw It's so crazy to watch the demo, and see all the absolute crap websites back then. How far we have come. What will the web look like in another 10 years?

And the presentation writes CCS1 and CCS2, instead of CSS1 and CSS2 :-) I think that was the reason that it was skipped that fast.