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Ex-CIA analyst finds mysterious Chinese complex on Google Earth

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Re: Ex-CIA analyst finds mysterious Chinese complex on Google Earth

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Uhhh, why don't they build these underground or camouflage them at all? I find it hard to believe sensitive compounds aren't camouflaged for satellite imagery.

I'd imagine cost. Putting things underground takes a lot of time and costs many times more than putting it above ground. If you need something in a hurry and don't have infinite resources, you really don't want to be digging. If this is indeed a secret Chinese facility I'd say it's done its job. We know it's there but we haven't the faintest clue what it does. In the modern age of spy satellites, hiding something com…

Google Maps is just free public satellite imagery. You can barely make out people (interestingly enough, I just realized most people are filtered out of the images). The CIA's had birds for years that are good enough to read license plates on moving cars. I'm sure that, if anything interesting is in that desert, they knew what it was before it was even built.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd imagine cost. Putting things underground takes a lot of time and costs many times more than putting it above ground. If you need something in a hurry and don't have infinite resources, you really don't want to be digging. If this is indeed a secret Chinese facility I'd say it's done its job. We know it's there but we haven't the faintest clue what it does. In the modern age of spy satellites, hiding something com…

Google Maps is just free public satellite imagery. You can barely make out people (interestingly enough, I just realized most people are filtered out of the images). The CIA's had birds for years that are good enough to read license plates on moving cars. I'm sure that, if anything interesting is in that desert, they knew what it was before it was even built.

  > The CIA's had birds for years that are good enough to
  > read license plates on moving cars.
That's an urban myth, assuming that by "bird" you're referring to an orbiting satellite and not terrestrial equipment like airplanes, quadcopters, and so on: http://everything2.com/title/Spy+satellites+can%2527t+read+y...

Re: Ex-CIA analyst finds mysterious Chinese complex on Google Earth

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The best thing the chinese have got in their desert is a 1:20 model of a section of the india-china border. http://www.gearthblog.com/images/images706/scalemodel.jpg http://www.gearthblog.com/blog/archives/2006/07/huge_scale_m... They also have a deserted replica of a typical english town: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thames_Town And they recently unveiled an exact replica of a real austrian town: http://www.bbc.co.u…

Nice! Also, some obscenely rich guy in the east built a full-scale Whitehouse as a personal residence. In the southwest, there is giant 'Optimus Prime' Transformers statue advertising a car-yard.

China and America are pretty similar, all things told.

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The buildings/structures out there are in interesting ratios. One of the U buildings is ~64m on 3 sides. Another one is 125% bigger on the smaller size, and then in a ratio of 1:2:1 per side.

A couple more buildings are about 108m, then there's more at about 86. Again, the bigger one is 125% larger. The big building is about 144m on the left and 154m on the right. To the right of that, there's another complex that's about 133m to the right of that (125% of 108m) Maybe it's on the inside of the build black building?

Re: Ex-CIA analyst finds mysterious Chinese complex on Google Earth

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The buildings/structures out there are in interesting ratios. One of the U buildings is ~64m on 3 sides. Another one is 125% bigger on the smaller size, and then in a ratio of 1:2:1 per side. A couple more buildings are about 108m, then there's more at about 86. Again, the bigger one is 125% larger. The big building is about 144m on the left and 154m on the right. To the right of that, there's another complex that's…

There seems to be a power substation here: 39.580234, 76.058357

And one large tower connecting it to a grid extending south here: 39.579052, 76.060278

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Maps is just free public satellite imagery. You can barely make out people (interestingly enough, I just realized most people are filtered out of the images). The CIA's had birds for years that are good enough to read license plates on moving cars. I'm sure that, if anything interesting is in that desert, they knew what it was before it was even built.

> The CIA's had birds for years that are good enough to > read license plates on moving cars. That's an urban myth, assuming that by "bird" you're referring to an orbiting satellite and not terrestrial equipment like airplanes, quadcopters, and so on: http://everything2.com/title/Spy+satellites+can%2527t+read+y...

the replies are interesting (image enhancement, dropping orbit, low angles, synthetic aperture, deformable mirrors, etc.)

Re: Ex-CIA analyst finds mysterious Chinese complex on Google Earth

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The best thing the chinese have got in their desert is a 1:20 model of a section of the india-china border. http://www.gearthblog.com/images/images706/scalemodel.jpg http://www.gearthblog.com/blog/archives/2006/07/huge_scale_m... They also have a deserted replica of a typical english town: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thames_Town And they recently unveiled an exact replica of a real austrian town: http://www.bbc.co.u…

Nice! Also, some obscenely rich guy in the east built a full-scale Whitehouse as a personal residence. In the southwest, there is giant 'Optimus Prime' Transformers statue advertising a car-yard. China and America are pretty similar, all things told.

I need to see the Optimus Prime

Re: Ex-CIA analyst finds mysterious Chinese complex on Google Earth

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice! Also, some obscenely rich guy in the east built a full-scale Whitehouse as a personal residence. In the southwest, there is giant 'Optimus Prime' Transformers statue advertising a car-yard. China and America are pretty similar, all things told.

I need to see the Optimus Prime

Looks like there's one in Beijing now too. The Kunming one was there for 10+ years, and used to be far higher than any building in the area. http://www.aeromental.net/2010/11/05/optimus-prime-statue-in...

Re: Ex-CIA analyst finds mysterious Chinese complex on Google Earth

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There's some interesting stuff near there. Close to the airport there's some sort of campus with what looks like test tracks: https://maps.google.com/maps?q=39.548+N,+75.996+E The tracks look designed for either testing cars or teaching advanced driving to police. There are T shaped concrete pads that are stained like people have done millions of three point turns on them or something. The whole complex is a bit odd.

This is a typical driving school. The curved tracks are not long enough to train police or test cars. You can only drive through it very slowly. And you can see there're parallel parking stains as well.
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