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Proposition HN: I will pay $8000 for you to build your side-project/MVP

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Re: Proposition HN: I will pay $8000 for you to build your side-project/MVP

#131
Is it OK if people (if they want to) post their ideas directly on this thread, instead of emailing? So perhaps, others like you could offer similar capital.

I can be excluded, but here is an example:

I have a hibernating project, called Lapp'd. It could be thought of as Medium.com for businesses. Here's the only screen I made: http://www.lappd.com

Re: Proposition HN: I will pay $8000 for you to build your side-project/MVP

#132

We split the resulting company 50-50, as equal co-founders. - you must be trolling?) How would you like to become equal to the years of thinking and trying by just throwing some money?

Its a classic startup. One partner has the money/business expertise, and one develops/produces. Apple started like that. If Woz told Jobs, "You can't code? I don't need you", there'd be no Apple today.

Jobs didn't have much business experience when they started the company and there was a friendship there.

I have tried going a similar route as this when starting a company and it didn't work.

Re: Proposition HN: I will pay $8000 for you to build your side-project/MVP

#134

We split the resulting company 50-50, as equal co-founders. - you must be trolling?) How would you like to become equal to the years of thinking and trying by just throwing some money?

Its a classic startup. One partner has the money/business expertise, and one develops/produces. Apple started like that. If Woz told Jobs, "You can't code? I don't need you", there'd be no Apple today.

Money is not enough. One should be worth of partnering with - well-connected, or even better - a market maker.

Basically, what companies like YC do is looking at you, and thinking to whom they will sell you - they are evaluating a few exit strategies.

Money usually isn't a problem. Ability to meet the right people and negotiate good terms are.

Re: Proposition HN: I will pay $8000 for you to build your side-project/MVP

#135

Initial thoughts: not disruptive enough to justify the extremely low valuation. How are you different from a reputable angel investor, who also brings connections? $5000 lasts about a month in NYC or the Bay Area. I like the ambition (of disrupting the funding process) but, in all honesty, to me this sounds like "I just need an idea guy" (as opposed to "I just need a programmer").

What if it's for guys not in NYC or the Bay Area?

Or even in those places, if you're in high school or college, have some skills and an idea, this could be an attractive alternative to looking for a summer job.

Re: Proposition HN: I will pay $8000 for you to build your side-project/MVP

#136

Pre-emptive FAQ: Isn't this a horrible deal? Incubators typically inject more money for far less equity! I earn $10K a month, I could easily save up $8K in a few months, and do this myself for 100% equity. True. If you can get into YCombinator, for example , you should obviously go for it. I can't compete with that. If you're earning $150K+, or you've already been working on your side-project for a year, this may not…

I think you're on to something here. One suggestion for the 1.1 version: relax Premise 4. A talented developer/designer may not necessarily have good (or any) ideas. I could see myself taking up such an offer if I didn't have to come up with the idea but instead I liked and had a good hunch about a suggested idea by the candidate co-founder.

Re: Proposition HN: I will pay $8000 for you to build your side-project/MVP

#137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The time commitments which come from an incubator are related to why YC's stakes are in the range they are, and why it consists of partners. How many investments are you making? One or two, maybe 50% equity is fair for your efforts at building traction and growing the company. Ten, probably not. A hundred, no way. On the other hand, a 100 investments is probably what is needed for the chance at a real payday. On Grah…

If this were a one time game you'd be correct. Assuming, he can quickly filter out a significant portion, it's possible to be very involved and have a significant chance of a large exit. This, of course, assumes that he's good at what he does which is an underlying assumption of this whole proposition. Rationale: Let's assume a home-run rate of about 3% which is my rough estimate of what it is for YC startups. That m…

That's a good argument except it depends on:

(a) one person being able to do the job of the entire YC team.

(b) that person having equivalent relationships with additional capital.

(c) one might make the case that the relationships to capital must be better because ventures are likely to be located further from conventional sources of capital.

50% equity is a lot to give up for two months of effort unless the other co-founder is only expected to put in the initial two months. And if that's the case, why bother?

Re: Proposition HN: I will pay $8000 for you to build your side-project/MVP

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Pre-emptive FAQ: Isn't this a horrible deal? Incubators typically inject more money for far less equity! I earn $10K a month, I could easily save up $8K in a few months, and do this myself for 100% equity. True. If you can get into YCombinator, for example , you should obviously go for it. I can't compete with that. If you're earning $150K+, or you've already been working on your side-project for a year, this may not…

If interested, drop me a line at hnproject2013@gmail.com If you have questions or HN-style critic on the structure/proposition, write below and help me build proposition version 1.1!

Email sent. For the record, I think this is a great idea.

Re: Proposition HN: I will pay $8000 for you to build your side-project/MVP

#140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed about the co-founder vs. investor problem. I would suggest anyone who wants to take this offer up do their diligence on hmexx and find out what he's bringing to the table as a co-founder. If it's just $8k for half a company that you will have to split 50/50 for the rest of it's existence, be wary. If he's a co-founder, he should join in on the workload after the MVP is proven. I would also consider vesting for…

Yeah - I am sure hmexx has hit on something - and I think it needs to evolve before its right (pivot! :-) My guess (above) is that HN is the ideal place for investor / 'prenuer matchmaking. Whether pg will let it be I cannot tell you. But it should beat AngelList just because.

This sounds almost tailor-made for YC to use as filter for their own applications. It's closer to their roots too, a tiny team with exactly enough money and time to do something.
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