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Re: Save your eyes, start using f.lux

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Post by arikrak »

fredsted wrote: post #25
jasonkester wrote: post #16

This thing gets a lot of love by a bunch of folks here, so I gave it a good half year of trying. But it's just too annoying. Around 5pm, your display turns pinkish orange and it becomes a lot harder to see anything. Code gets harder to read, colors display wrong, video just fades to black. None of the advertised happiness ensues. The second half-year it remained installed, my only interaction with it was to notice it…

Whenever Flux gets mentioned, there's two groups of people: 1: Doesn't understand it, hates the "wrong" colors. Can't get used to it. 2: Appreciates the candle-like colors, says it helps them sleep in the evening or relaxes their eyes. I wonder if there's some sort of genetic difference? Maybe some people just aren't sensitive to bright light in the evening?

It turns reddish gradually, so I don't really notice it. If I disable it at night, the sudden blueness hurts for a second, which implies there's some benefit to being redder.

Re: Save your eyes, start using f.lux

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Post by jrabone »

gurkendoktor wrote: post #75
fredsted wrote: post #25

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Whenever Flux gets mentioned, there's two groups of people: 1: Doesn't understand it, hates the "wrong" colors. Can't get used to it. 2: Appreciates the candle-like colors, says it helps them sleep in the evening or relaxes their eyes. I wonder if there's some sort of genetic difference? Maybe some people just aren't sensitive to bright light in the evening?

I wonder if there are also geographic differences at play? I love it during summer in Germany (= bright until ~10PM) but it annoys me when it turns dark at 4PM, while I am still at work.

Seems like a simple fix to make it latitude-aware, if it's not already.

Re: Save your eyes, start using f.lux

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Post by thirdtruck »

herf wrote: post #126
Osmium wrote: post #50

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I'm not sure it's a genetic difference. I used to be in camp 1, despite trying Flux many times, but now I'm firmly in camp 2. The change for me was due to a change in working environment, and I imagine that's the difference for a lot of people: if you're in a brightly lit room anyway, then the colours becoming weird is just going to be irritating. If you're in a room with a lot of natural lighting, or trying to work…

f.lux does look wrong in a blue-rich lighting environment (like an office building after dark.) It looks ok in most people's homes.

That doesn't surprise me. If you're in such an environment, I'd bet that the ambient light would overwhelm the benefits of a tinted display, anyway.

Re: Save your eyes, start using f.lux

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Post by joevandyk »

jasonkester wrote: post #16

This thing gets a lot of love by a bunch of folks here, so I gave it a good half year of trying. But it's just too annoying. Around 5pm, your display turns pinkish orange and it becomes a lot harder to see anything. Code gets harder to read, colors display wrong, video just fades to black. None of the advertised happiness ensues. The second half-year it remained installed, my only interaction with it was to notice it…

Do you have flux set to slowly modify the white balance? If it changes over the course of an hour, then I find it's pretty difficult to notice the change.

Videos shouldn't be black though. Flux does have different white balance targets, have you tried selecting a different one?

Re: Save your eyes, start using f.lux

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Post by aw3c2 »

progrock wrote: post #109
roadnottaken wrote: post #63

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Half the people in my office leave their laptop display at about 50% brightness all day. It drives me crazy -- I always want to go over and turn it all the way up. I like my monitors BRIGHT, but others say it bothers their eyes. You might be right...

That's kind of funny. I personally can have real issues with bright displays. Only in very light sun lit offices, I don't mind the brightness being up. When at home in the bat cave, I far prefer dimmer light. Some days my eyes are more sensitive, or perhaps getting used to dimmer displays make you more sensitive to bright ones. I used to use the transparant filter with compiz, just to take the edge of some glare/brig…

Run redshift in a terminal to see what it is doing.

Re: Save your eyes, start using f.lux

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Post by aw3c2 »

guard-of-terra wrote: post #115
longwave wrote: post #105

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I seem to remember it looks for gnome-clock to discover your location, and gives up if that's not found, although the GTK version does unhelpfully just exit without a message. It can't work without knowing your latitude and longitude to work out sunset/sunrise times.

redshift segfaults actually.

Please submit that to the author. Segfaults should not happen.

Re: Save your eyes, start using f.lux

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Post by RivieraKid »

herf wrote: post #125
jasonkester wrote: post #16

This thing gets a lot of love by a bunch of folks here, so I gave it a good half year of trying. But it's just too annoying. Around 5pm, your display turns pinkish orange and it becomes a lot harder to see anything. Code gets harder to read, colors display wrong, video just fades to black. None of the advertised happiness ensues. The second half-year it remained installed, my only interaction with it was to notice it…

(author of f.lux here) Color adaptation actually takes about 2 minutes, and we transition by default in 20 seconds (some video cards use a ton of CPU during the transition time, so we pushed it a bit faster.) The slow transition option should help some people. Also a badly-calibrated monitor can give a very undesirable result color-wise, but a white page should look like your room lighting if we do things right.

Is the Android version still on your todo list? I was thinking about making something like f.lux for Android.

Re: Save your eyes, start using f.lux

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Post by jameyc »

jasonkester wrote: post #64
fredsted wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whenever Flux gets mentioned, there's two groups of people: 1: Doesn't understand it, hates the "wrong" colors. Can't get used to it. 2: Appreciates the candle-like colors, says it helps them sleep in the evening or relaxes their eyes. I wonder if there's some sort of genetic difference? Maybe some people just aren't sensitive to bright light in the evening?

Speaking of genetic differences, you see this same sort of split whenever "what music do you listen to while coding?" gets discussed here. Half the folks suggest music that makes them more productive. The other half say that any music at all distracts them to the point that they can't get anything done. For anybody looking to correlate the two, I wrote the above and fall squarely into the "no music" camp as well. May…

I'm not sure there is much correlation between the two, at least in my case.

I fall squarely into the "no music" camp, and have since I was a child where music during study would drive me crazy. Music while coding is just a distraction to me.

However, I really love F.lux/Redshift. One of the most relaxing and productive things for me is to work in a dim or dark room with the display shifted to a fairly low color temp. By contrast, during the day I prefer fairly high contrast, using the VividChalk theme in Vim. In the past I would switch to a lower contrast theme like OceanDeep, but never found one to work well with red hues yet, which I prefer in dim light (partially as a throwback to old amber monitors.)

As a side note, I will agree with everyone saying the automated time based shifts are annoying. I usually find myself pausing or disabling it. Having it triggered off ambient light levels is the logical way, imho.

I also prefer nobody throw hambmurgers at me while coding, but if they want to toss them onto the corner of my desk for later consumption, I won't complain...

Re: Save your eyes, start using f.lux

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Post by arohner »

herf wrote: post #131

Summary of feature requests so far: - default to a slower transition - support dimming too - Add an API - Sunset is fine, except in the winter Most of these are on our list but it is all good feedback!

I'd also request testing on multi-monitor setups. When plugging my MBP into an external display, sometimes flux transitions to the external monitor, sometimes it doesn't.
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