Never Lie About Who You Really Are
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Never Lie About Who You Really Are
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#2Isn't the idea of "coming out" a bit old fashioned now?
(Straight people don't "come out")
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#3Isn't the idea of "coming out" a bit old fashioned now? (Straight people don't "come out")
It's as old-fashioned as a first kiss. It happens every day to a million different people.
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#5Isn't the idea of "coming out" a bit old fashioned now? (Straight people don't "come out")
Up to a point, but in a lot of the world it's still necessary.
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#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's as old-fashioned as a first kiss. It happens every day to a million different people.
My question was why do gay people need to "come out", why does that make sense in 2013?
It's still not statistically normal, and it's still not immediately obvious. So there's always going to be a point where you tell people, and there's always the possibility of an off reaction, like when you mention that you have an unusual hobby.
Add to that the fact that there's still a lot of judgement, and for some people it's easier to handle in a single conversation with everyone, and I think the coming out will be with us for some time yet.
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#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
My question was why do gay people need to "come out", why does that make sense in 2013?
It's still not statistically normal, and it's still not immediately obvious. So there's always going to be a point where you tell people, and there's always the possibility of an off reaction, like when you mention that you have an unusual hobby. Add to that the fact that there's still a lot of judgement, and for some people it's easier to handle in a single conversation with everyone, and I think the coming out will…
Why does it matter if it's statistically normal, or obvious? Why is there a point when you have to tell people? It seems counter to the equal rights argument.
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#8Isn't the idea of "coming out" a bit old fashioned now? (Straight people don't "come out")
> (Straight people don't "come out")
Well yes they do, it's just that they can do it by bringing home the boyfriend/girlfriend to meet the parents or whatever you want to consider normal first steps in expressing your sexuality.
In a large part of the world though, probably most of the world where you can, if you are gay you basically have to explicit come out to your closest friends and relatives to get over whatever initial shock, embarrassment, anger, violence, or whatever may occur.
Far too many don't take it well.
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's still not statistically normal, and it's still not immediately obvious. So there's always going to be a point where you tell people, and there's always the possibility of an off reaction, like when you mention that you have an unusual hobby. Add to that the fact that there's still a lot of judgement, and for some people it's easier to handle in a single conversation with everyone, and I think the coming out will…
Why does it matter if it's statistically normal, or obvious? Why is there a point when you have to tell people? It seems counter to the equal rights argument.
You don't have to tell people, but you would naturally do so in the course of normal conversation (i.e. how's your wife doing?)
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#10In the UK I've run into people who use the term `partner' for whomever they are in a non-married exclusive relationship with, regardless of whether they are gay or straight.
I don't know how common that is, or how it got started. I wonder whether it will ever catch on in the US?