This is Kind of Old news SYNC APi has been around a while
Yes, it's been around for awhile but the general public hasn't been able to develop apps for it until now.
Ford Releases An SDK For Their Cars
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Re: Ford Releases An SDK For Their Cars
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are we sure they aren't complying with the GPL? After all, it only requires distribution of source to those who receive the compiled code. Which is to say, unless you have a Tesla in your garage, you have no claim to the source.
Where did you guys get that info? As far as I know, it's always been that if you distribute something with GPL code, you must make the source available to anyone that requests it. Not only to your customers. One can change though, for the costs of making it available. The thing you mentioned is applied to licensing. A person is only under obligations by the license if he/she distributes anything that uses GPL code. I…
> if you distribute something with GPL code, you must make the source available to anyone that requests it
That's only true if you're operating under section 3(b) of the GPLv2: explicitly offering source via mail order. If you offer GPLv2 source via mail order, you have to honor mail order requests from anyone. However, you aren't required to offer the source via mail order at all, as per section 3.
In the GPLv3, the analogous section, 6(b), is actually further constrained: if you explicitly offer GPLv3 source via mail order, you're only obliged to honor requests from people that have the object code in their possession.
Re: Ford Releases An SDK For Their Cars
#53Nice, I like the forward thinking by ford on this. I only wish next they open up the engine controller, and let the real hackers in!
They're getting a bit closer with OpenXC. Doubtful they'll ever let anyone all the way in, but you never know... http://openxcplatform.com/
As an addendum to this, we (finally) were able to release OpenXC just now.
Re: Ford Releases An SDK For Their Cars
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, they are legally obligated to share their modifications with their customers. No arguments here. > Code properly distributed as such inevitably would make it back out into the wider open source community; this is the design of the GPL The design of the GPL is to protect the users rights to use, access and modify the software in perpetuity. There is no provision in the license that modifiers have to share modifie…
> Yes, they are legally obligated to share their modifications with their customers. No arguments here. Nope, if you distribute something with GPL code, you must make the source available to anyone that requests it. Not only to your customers. And you can't put any kind of filter on reasons for the request. One can only charge a "reasonable" amount for the work of making it available (CD, hosting, etc). The only corn…
> if you distribute something with GPL code, you must make the source available to anyone that requests it. Not only to your customers. And you can't put any kind of filter on reasons for the request.
That's patently false for both the GPLv2 and GPLv3. For v2, see section 3. Only one of the three compliance options requires universal fulfillment of requests for source.
GPLv3 has no similar requirement. The closest analogue to v2's section 3(b) has its scope explicitly limited to "anyone who possesses the object code."
Re: Ford Releases An SDK For Their Cars
#55This sounded awesome right up to the point that they said that this was a hotly pursued space due to advertising potential to a captive audience. If I am in my own car and my music is interrupted with an ad every time I drive by a McDonalds - I would find that extremely annoying. On the other hand, if you could lease a car at a subsidized price in exchange for ads, that might be an attractive offer to some.
It ought to be flatly illegal to visually advertise through an in-car app. An ad is designed to engage attention; visually engaging a driver is the last thing we want on the road. It's beyond stupid. YOU ARE PASSING A GAS STATION. PLEASE STOP AND BUY IT. YOU ARE PASSING A SANDWICH SHOP. PLEASE SWERVE LEFT AND BUY SANDWICH. 5 POINTS IF YOU CHANGE TO THE FAR RIGHT LANE!
CarVille, anyone?
Re: Ford Releases An SDK For Their Cars
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
It ought to be flatly illegal to visually advertise through an in-car app. An ad is designed to engage attention; visually engaging a driver is the last thing we want on the road. It's beyond stupid. YOU ARE PASSING A GAS STATION. PLEASE STOP AND BUY IT. YOU ARE PASSING A SANDWICH SHOP. PLEASE SWERVE LEFT AND BUY SANDWICH. 5 POINTS IF YOU CHANGE TO THE FAR RIGHT LANE!
Hm. I wonder if anyone has ever attempted to ban billboards under the guise of being worried about distracted driving.
This is actually already the case in a few European countries I am aware of. Not all streets, but next to the highways there can't be any visible billboards.
Re: Ford Releases An SDK For Their Cars
#57"Certain kinds of apps will be barred, like games, elaborate video and anything that would require extensive reading."
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"Ford also announced nine new apps that would be part of the Sync system, including The Wall Street Journal, USA Today..."
Good that these don't require extensive reading
Re: Ford Releases An SDK For Their Cars
#58This sounded awesome right up to the point that they said that this was a hotly pursued space due to advertising potential to a captive audience. If I am in my own car and my music is interrupted with an ad every time I drive by a McDonalds - I would find that extremely annoying. On the other hand, if you could lease a car at a subsidized price in exchange for ads, that might be an attractive offer to some.
A chocolate company in Cleveland ran a promotion where the company would pay you $150 per month for three years if you bought a specially wrapped and painted Volkswagon Beetle with their colors and logos plastered on it. http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2012/08/would_yo...
In Switzerland, most car shops offer a deal that when you leave a big sticker with the garage's name and slogan and perhaps a marketing claim on your newly bought car, you get some reduction on the maintenance work each year.
Re: Ford Releases An SDK For Their Cars
#59This sounded awesome right up to the point that they said that this was a hotly pursued space due to advertising potential to a captive audience. If I am in my own car and my music is interrupted with an ad every time I drive by a McDonalds - I would find that extremely annoying. On the other hand, if you could lease a car at a subsidized price in exchange for ads, that might be an attractive offer to some.
It ought to be flatly illegal to visually advertise through an in-car app. An ad is designed to engage attention; visually engaging a driver is the last thing we want on the road. It's beyond stupid. YOU ARE PASSING A GAS STATION. PLEASE STOP AND BUY IT. YOU ARE PASSING A SANDWICH SHOP. PLEASE SWERVE LEFT AND BUY SANDWICH. 5 POINTS IF YOU CHANGE TO THE FAR RIGHT LANE!
Interesting. Same could be done by docking a Tablet in Car
Re: Ford Releases An SDK For Their Cars
#60I am looking forward to playing Angry Birds while driving.