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Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam

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Hi HN. We were tired of recruiters so we built this because it was something we wish existed. We had "satisfying" jobs and liked who we worked with but we were not naive and knew there could be a better job out there. Either building a product more aligned with our personal interests, making more doing something we enjoyed even more, or work with a team that challenged us further. It was too time consuming to activel…

YES ! Beside the fact that ask for uploading a resume is not a good move. Resume can be very quickly outdated, why not asking to link a linkedin account instead ?

Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam

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I can only speak for web application development, but $140k is definitely not for "extraordinarily experienced and talented programmers only" in San Francisco for someone doing js/rails. Are the people you know working in startups where part of their compensation comes in equity, or the prestige of working at a well-known "great" place?

I'm working in the midwest where the average experience level among developers is "several" years. (I don't know exactly, but it's probably at least 5). I'd be surprised if the average engineer salary here is as high as the lowest pitchbox bracket.

Then I expect the average developer could get a big bump in salary working for an SF company.

But it's not a free lunch: cost of living is high here and some things like commuting are terrible. I know developers who moved back to Minnesota so they could waste less of their lives in their cars.

Hence the appeal of "work from Ohio". 100% remote seems to be an ever more realistic option, but I expect it's still harder to find work, although work is so easy to find this may not matter much. A bigger issue may be finding a 100% remote job at a company with a remote culture. Working remotely with a company whose culture is centred around an office can be an exercise in a thousand little tediums.

The different social dynamics of working remotely can be a challenge as well.

I feel as though my post reads a bit like "don't try to work for an SF company", but that's not really my intent. I mean more to convey that the pitchbox salaries are perfectly real, but it's not too good to be true. Moving to SF to work, or working remotely are options, but salary isn't everything and these choices won't be right for everyone.

Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can only speak for web application development, but $140k is definitely not for "extraordinarily experienced and talented programmers only" in San Francisco for someone doing js/rails. Are the people you know working in startups where part of their compensation comes in equity, or the prestige of working at a well-known "great" place?

No, the developers I know are working for large companies. Some of my disconnect may be due to where I live. My peers may also be relatively inexperienced, so maybe these salaries aren't nuts. I just wish I knew these numbers before I took my last couple of jobs!

I expect location matters more. Even here, the salary difference between working in SF and only slightly further north can be $30-$50k for comparable jobs.

Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam

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Can we make changes? I have submitted, but would like to amend my resume to include some of my relevant side projects.

You should receive a welcome email shortly if not already, respond to that with any updates. You can always email support@trypitchbox.com too

Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam

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Can we make changes? I have submitted, but would like to amend my resume to include some of my relevant side projects.

You should receive a welcome email shortly if not already, respond to that with any updates. You can always email support@trypitchbox.com too

Cool cool, thanks.

Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam

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For me I would do it if the salary field was optional, I think the employer should decide what value to place on a specific candidate based on his or her past experience.

Companies who can afford to pay for someone with an expansive background will do so, but certain candidates might also be more interested in working with local startups who don't have Silicon Valley or NYC budgets, but allow for more flexible positions (i.e. Telework, like others have mentioned).

Not to mention certain people thrive in a small team environment versus a large corporate culture, and there's a chance to get meaningful equity to build something new and exciting.

Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam

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Fresh college grads getting $150k? I find that incredibly hard to believe.

As a fresh college grad from a non-top tier school in Silicon Valley, many of my friends are making ~$100K/year right out of school. I'm sure people from top tier schools going to Google and Facebook can make double that.

Peroni is in the UK and doesn't have a good perspective on US recruitment.

Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam

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There are a few things I dislike about recruiters that we aim to fix: * They nearly all are technically incompetent, e.g. thinking Java is the cool word for Javascript and such. We know the difference between interfaces and inheritance, being developers ourselves, we are better at understanding the needs of companies and matching that to the desires of developers. * Recruiters hide information, almost always. We're f…

Whilst I don't agree with the practice, the reason most recruiters are cagey about disclosing too much info on the company they represent is because they don't want the candidate to go to the company directly and saving the company $25k. How do you deal with that challenge? Look, I'm incredibly vocal about the need to disrupt the recruitment industry but from what I understand based on the discussion here, the differ…

Finally in agreement. IMO, technical people are more often not good salespeople or recruiters.
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