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Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam

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Wow, that's pretty steep. Maybe that's just a west coast thing. I don't think most developers realize how much recruiters are getting paid for placements. 25% is pretty standard across US, we're less then that with our flat rate. Where I live (Ohio) that's 50% of the salary of a developer with 5 years of experience. This is why we built this product - assuming you are even remotely decent at programming and write cod…

Have you considered the possibility that charging a flat fee instead of a percentage of annual salary makes your service inappropriate for most areas outside of silicon valley or NYC?

A recruiter who specializes and limits their scope sounds great to me.

Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam

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Sorry, but what part of 'Stay anonymous ... 100% Private & confidential - Learn your market value without your current employer ever knowing' involves me giving you my name, current employer, current title, and email address in step 2? That's just down-right cognitive dissonance. The landing page doesn't give me enough assurance, but to get any more details, I have to click through. Or do you expect a curious candida…

It is anonymous to the point that others don't know you are on Pitchbox. Your name isn't shared with anyone until you are matched with a company and you like the pitch and agree to sharing it. It would be just to hard to send you personally relevant pitches without a little background information to incorporate in our matchmaking.

Names aren't the only personally identifying information. Many of us with specific skills working in small companies are easily recognizable based on title and company alone. For the record I'm not looking at the moment, but I know I'm the only one with my title at my current and previous job, and they're both the sort of tech companies that will find your service.

It'd give me much more confidence in your site, and other recruiting sites as well, if you outlined exactly how my info was presented to interesting parties, and how those parties were selected.

Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam

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These salary brackets are very real for US based developers.

If you could be so kind, could you clarify exactly who could expect these salaries? Are these entry/mid/senior level? 1, 5, 10 years experience? Top-tier developers only? I ask because there are plenty of companies hiring at sub-$70k salaries and they're having no trouble filling their positions with decent programmers. Are the programmers I know selling themselves short, or is $140k for extraordinarily experienced a…

When I was looking for job in April the lowest offer I got was for 135k base + ~70k in stocks (vested over 4 years). All other offers were higher and some significantly higher. Dev with ~8 years experience.

Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam

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Wow, that's pretty steep. Maybe that's just a west coast thing. Where I live (Ohio) that's 50% of the salary of a developer with 5 years of experience. I signed up for your service but... that seems like a good chunk of change I'd prefer to have in my pocket :)

Yeah, I go to school in Ohio and am going to be working on the west coast. Salaries on the west coast are >2x (close to 3x) what I would have made in Ohio (Cleveland).

I haven't seen anybody raise the point about the cost of living. The salaries are more because the cost of living is higher. With 50k you can afford a mortgage for a nice house in the midwest, but in NYC the equivalent monthly income will qualify you for a tiny studio or 1 BR apt.

Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam

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I'm currently hiring developers, and I also hate recruiters, for the reasons you outline. I was interested to learn about your flat $25K fee in the comments here, and I can tell you that I'd be unlikely to pay it. I have other ways to find developers that aren't so expensive. If I'd bothered to sign up after reading "It's free to get started" then learned later about the hefty fee, I'd be disappointed at best. Since…

I think that the $25k flat fee is very well done. It sends the right signals, and incentivizes companies in the right ways.

1) It implies that their offering is heavily productized. To a hiring company, this implies that quality will be high because they have found a way to scale a solution such that improvements benefit every customer.

2) $25k signals a bias towards higher salaries, where this number can be expected to be below typical recruiter prices. It has the same effect as theladders.com's "$100k+ jobs only" policy, but acts as a natural consequence of economic interest, instead of a gimmicky status ploy.

Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam

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Aw man, am I the only one who doesn't have this terrible problem of everyone wanting to offer them a job?

I'm sure I'm not doing 100% of what's possible to be able to sit back and pick and choose whether I want the 150k job or the 180k job, but almost all of these "recruiters suck" posts apply to a small minority of people, those near the top of their profession.

Maybe I need a "Do you make shitty weekend projects that end up going nowhere? Let us know" site.

Re: Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam

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Aw man, am I the only one who doesn't have this terrible problem of everyone wanting to offer them a job? I'm sure I'm not doing 100% of what's possible to be able to sit back and pick and choose whether I want the 150k job or the 180k job, but almost all of these "recruiters suck" posts apply to a small minority of people, those near the top of their profession. Maybe I need a "Do you make shitty weekend projects th…

I'm nowhere near the top of my profession, so I'm baffled by it. I'm actually glad to read about it, since my non-dev friends don't understand it and get angry at me for bitching about people trying to offer me work! I am however, a minority in the field (a woman) so I sometimes think that this fact MAY have something to do with it :/

It really gives me even more reason to hate the recruiting spam - when I'm called "Mr." or when they tell me that "We're looking for a couple of great dudes like you!"

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